Talk:Daseian notation

A fact from Daseian notation appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 April 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the earliest known examples of polyphonic music, dating from the 9th century, are written in Daseian notation?

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Great article!

it looks like the 2nd image (w/ the modern staff) was home generated; maybe it could be updated to include a clef? From context it looks like it should be a treble clef--though would those be the actual pitches implied by the treatises (ie those octaves)? I would figure the music there is meant for men to sing... —Turangalila ^talk 15:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you're right, there should be a treble clef there. I pulled that image from Commons; I don't have the software capability to modify it, but if you're able to, you're welcome to change it or upload a better example. Chubbles 17:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Turangalila and Chubbles, I have a hard time following your argument. Why would you say it needs a treble clef - which I understand to mean G4 on the second line of the stave, when you believe that it is meant for men to sing? Or did the image change since? — Sebastian 02:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the image is the same. The lowest note represented here is a G, which would imply treble clef; if we wanted to use bass clef, to indicate male voices, we'd need to move everything down one staff line. Chubbles (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I see the source of the confusion. You meant treble clef transposed by an octave (nowadays written with "8va" underneath, as is common for writing tenor lines). Yes, that would give you the range G2-C5 (using scientific pitch notation), which neatly fits to our article vocal range. But where do you get the information that "the lowest note represented here is a G[2]"? — Sebastian 19:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]