Talk:Dart

Another meaning

here's another meaning I can't quite explain -- 790 (talk) 09:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just so I don't leave this hanging after cleaning up the page... The reference above is to the Sacremento Fire Department web page, which included: "The Fire Reserves are dispatched to multiple alarm fires, Level 3 Haz-Mat incidents, DART calls, USAR activations, and other emergencies whenever additional resources are required."

In this context it's short for "Disaster Assessment Recovery Team" (see [1]) or " Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team" (see [2]).

Wikipedia doesn't have articles on those generic teams; but does have Disaster Assistance and Rescue Team (a specific such team in Singapore) and Disaster Assistance Response Team (a specific such team in Canada). Both are on the DAB page (and were already present at the time of the above comment). TJRC (talk) 00:29, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Paper plane

Isn't paper dart another name for paper plane? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.12.115 (talk) 07:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, paper dart is not another name for paper plane. Superkittydance (talk) 19:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out that it is. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4600:3F80:14CA:1B75:64B1:F2C5 (talk) 00:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus, not moved. Perhaps a reflection of the imbalance between male and female editors that nobody has until now pointed out that Dart (sewing) gets nearly the identical number of page views as Dart (missile) (page view stats). – wbm1058 (talk) 13:59, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dart → Dart (disambiguation) – The dart as used in Darts is the primary topic for "Dart". This page should be moved to the disambiguation title Dart (disambiguation), and "Dart" should redirect to Darts per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. TJRC (talk) 23:03, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move Dart (missile) to Dart as primary topic. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:18, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am on the fence. If anything is going to be made the primary topic, it should be Dart (missile), but I think that the historical definition is closer to being a spear than being what people now think of as a "dart" (that being the object used in the sport). bd2412 T 04:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both are dealt with in the Dart (missile) article, however, so it would be possible to call it WP:DABCONCEPT. Dekimasuよ! 20:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – the current disambiguation setup is better for this ambiguous term. No primarytopic. Dicklyon (talk) 06:50, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move Dart (missile) to Dart as primary topic, per User:Rreagan007._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:46, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, no clear primary topic. The darts dart has more claim to primacy than the weapon. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It turns out I can't read and this is what the nom is saying anyway. Still, the dab page remaining at the base term is the best option. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: no clear primary topic (in some way evidenced by the above comments about the Darts dart vs the missile dart). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:27, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move Dart (missile) to Dart. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move Dart (missile) to Dart (and move the dab page as proposed) because Dart (missile) covers both the meanings that are being considered important here: the "darts dart" and the "missile". Dekimasuよ! 19:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The coverage of the darts dart in dart (missile) is a more mention, leaving it short of WP:DABCONCEPT; the darts dart topic is represented by the other article, and the disambiguation should remain at the base. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Lead link

The above discussion reached no conclusion as to a primary topic for the purpose of moving the page. I am told, dubiously, that because of this I cannot change the primary topic link. Why should that link be to the game, rather than to the missiles that it uses? The missiles obviously precede the game, and the name of the game "darts" does not match the page name, "dart." That makes it an odd choice to pull out of the list for special treatment. 2601:642:4600:3F80:F037:7860:6CBD:A7BB (talk) 15:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because there is no primary topic. Period. I don't see how you can possibly come to any other interpretation of WP:MOSDAB, in particular MOS:DABPRIMARY, MOS:DABINTRO, and MOS:DABORDER. Now MOS:DABORDER point #2 allows for a few of the most commonly sought items to be grouped together below the intro line, but that is quite different from the edits you've been making to the lead. Perhaps there are some other stylistic improvements that could be made, but certainly not to imply that there is a primary topic where there is none. older ≠ wiser 15:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some additional data points:

WikiNav outgoing pageviews suggest that most people do not go to either the game or the missile article after arriving at the disambiguation page. Several other articles (such as Double Asteroid Redirection Test, Dart (programming language), Dallas Area Rapid Transit, Dublin Area Rapid Transit) are more common destinations than either.
In terms of raw pageviews for articles with Dart as the main term, the programming language is roughly equivalent to the game.
In terms of page viewsfor the most popular articles listed on the dab page (I included only items with more views overall than Dart (missile)), views of the article for the game Darts is roughly equivalent to those for Dart (programming language), Double Asteroid Redirection Test, and Dodge Dart -- again suggesting that neither the missile nor the game are the primary topic. older ≠ wiser 16:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no primary topic, period, then why does one topic, which you say that most people do not go to, appear on the page as if it were one? 2601:642:4600:3F80:F037:7860:6CBD:A7BB (talk) 17:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't in primary topic format -- but like I said Perhaps there are some other stylistic improvements that could be made. older ≠ wiser 17:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]