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Former good articleWar in Darfur was one of the Warfare good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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This article is remarkably selective in its sourcing and excludes a great deal of the most important reporting on Darfur, most notably by the Small Arms Survey (Geneva) and the work of Eric Reeves, including a book devoted entirely to Darfur "(A Long Day's Dying: Critical Moments in the Darfur Genocide"; Key Press [Toronto], 2007). Half of a second book by Reeves is devoted to Darfur ("Compromising With Evil: An archival history of Greater Sudan, 2007 - 2012; an e-Book at www.compromisingwithevil.org). The "bibliography" is laughable: one book by Flint and de Waal. Important, but there have been many books on Darfur, some by longstanding students of Darfur. This article omits so much, despite its length, that it is difficult not to conclude that there is a deliberate and slanted selection of materials cited on a wide range of subjects. The entire article needs to be reworked by another, more knowledgeable and objective author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ER-Sudan (talk • contribs) 16:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Material copied to another Wikipedia page

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Material from this page has been copied to another Wikipedia pageMichael E Nolan (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2019 (UTC) 2010s political history.[reply]

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How is this a 20 year long war?

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It began in 2003 and ended in 2020. AccomplishedTale7 (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

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I propose that the History section, up until yesterday called the Timeline section be split off into its own article (Timeline of the War in Darfur). As it currently stands the section is quite large and quite list like, it lists off things that are, in the grand scheme of the war unimportant to how it played out and was clearly built up as the conflict was onging. I think the article could do with a summary of the war, but I am also reluctant to throw out most of the information in the timeline even if the events listed are irrelevant to how the war played out, hence my splitting proposal. DervotNum4 (talk) 15:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the history section is pretty long. The detail might be useful for a more in-depth reader, but most people would prefer a shorter summary. Ironic (talk) 20:36, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out the page Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile also deals heavily with War in Darfur (And a lot of content that is unrealted to the conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile due to the page formerly being about both conflicts) in the same way that this article does, I think I may go ahead and do the split. DervotNum4 (talk) 04:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think a re-write might be better than a split. See War in Sudan (2023–present)#Course of the war for an excellent way of writing a timeline without the need to have an actual timeline.
if you still think there are excessive information, than having an article about each period of the conflict would be more beneficial, e.g., Hassan al-Turabi era and Resurgence of the RSF, as the article also miss out on Gaafar Nimeiry era and Sadiq al-Mahdi era. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A re-write is something this page certainly needs, but I think both a re-write and a timeline could be useful in a similiar vain as to how the current war in Sudan both has page of its own (War in Sudan (2023–present)) and a timeline page (Timeline of the War in Sudan (2023–present)) DervotNum4 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the split, as per above discussion FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree a timeline is necessary along with a rewrite of the main article; this is a twenty-year war with not a single page about a specific incident in the war. A timeline would work a lot better in presenting the course and history of the war to readers and still be encyclopedic. Jebiguess (talk) 16:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm probably going to start up a draft of the split in the next couple of days. It's going to take a while though just because I have to check the accuracy of all the info already on the page DervotNum4 (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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