Talk:Danny Carey

Odd sentence

Under "Biography":

... he began expanding his studies in percussion with theory into the principles of geometry, science, and metaphysics.

Principles of science? This sentence needs rewriting. — Nowhither 20:34, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Saluda cymbals

I removed a link to the Saluda site, as Carey plays Paistes according to the article, and isn't listed as an endorsed drummer on the Saluda site. I doubt that the person who did this (and several similar edits) is in any way connected to Saluda, they have been very professional in all my dealings with them and I am a very demanding but satisfied customer. Andrewa 08:08, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

The link was back and I removed it again. Holomorph 14:30, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Prison?

At the end of the live recording for "stinkfist" someone (presumably Maynard Keenan) says "We'd like to take this opportunity to congradulate Danny; yesterday was the last day of his parole." Is this referring to this danny? Or is it a joke? I wasn't at the concert, so maybe it was part of a joke or something. Anyone know? --2tothe4 01:53, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

It's extremely likely that this is joke. Tool are known for saying things that are completely untrue just to get a laugh, particularly Maynard James Keenan. While performing with Tool, Maynard has also: asked the crowd to look for his lost contact (they obliged on many occasions); claimed that their bassist, Justin Chancellor, was from a local or exotic location, variably (ranging from Poland to Rolla, Missouri (state)); and likes to get a rise out of the audience by saying things in reference to their music that may or may not be a joke (they are often a mix of the two): "Has anyone ever loved you so much that they tried to kill you? Or perhaps, sucked you down into a hole, so that you had to kill them to get away?... Yeah, me neither."--Cassius987 22:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Aleister Crowley

In the current (July 2006) issue of Metal Hammer (UK), there is an interview with Tool. One of the mini-features at the side has facts about the band you may not have known, one of which is that "Drummer Danny Carey is the great-grandson of occult anti-hero Aleister Crowley". Can anyone verify this, using another source if possible, so it can be included in the article if true? (All the other facts are true, which makes it more intriguing)

He has a collection of books by this guy, check his website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Holomorph (talk • contribs) 03:30, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Danny Setup with GPS?

This Trivia items seems to have appeared recently, and while I'm sure Danny has some rituals in regards to his drumkit setup, positioning via GPS? Seems doubtful to me, especially when most of their shows are indoors where GPS wouldn't even work anyway. Someone please provide some verification or I'll remove this in a few days. hellboy 02:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Aniba Ayahuascus Rosaeodora

I dunno, but I kinda though the whole Aniba Ayahuascus Rosaeodora thing was a joke? hellboy 08:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's the original interview in question [1]. Seems legit, but a google search shows no refence to any tree with that name, and the diving petrel is actually a seabird, not a rain forest dweller. Quote removed. hellboy 03:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

You're probably right, I should have looked it up. It did seem a little fishy but looking at some pictures the shells didn't look quite the same as the ones on his old Bubinga Designer so I thought it could be a different type of wood; it's probably just the finish though. Yet another Tool interview joke =D. Holomorph 04:40, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Drumming Techniques

"In search of new techniques, Carey has studied tabla with Aloke Dutta who can be heard playing tablas on Tool's latest album, 10,000 days" - does anyone have any sources for this? I've read Danny played the tabla himself (at least on Intension) and that he did most of the percussion sounds with his pads anyway. Holomorph 18:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I removed this since I could find no supporting evidence and did find evidence for the fact that Danny himself plays them. I also removed the stick spinning part since it also had no reference for quite some time now and I've never seen Danny actually do this; it seems unfounded as well or at least not true in that way (he could, for example, have suggested he used this technique while learning to play in like that, for example). Holomorph 00:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

"laid claim?"

As in "Danny has laid claim to various drumming techniques that use sacred geometrical figures..." Fancy, artful term... I really wish people would realize that Tool's official site is written and worded in a toungue-in-cheek manner, and not feel compelled to forever write in that form. It makes everyone sound like a 10th grader with a copy of Hamlet... What in the world does this mean? That the author is making this assumption based on Mr. Carey's use of symbols? Or that he has openly stated that he uses these methods? If it isn't the former, then this should be removed due to being without meaningful source. 71.112.152.223 17:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)KD Jones

"...he has projected a deep interest in and understanding for the magical arts and sciences..."

Um.. projected to where? From where? Does this mean that anything an artist portrays or displays on stage indicates a "deep interest?" For instance, does this mean that The Residents are ophthamologists by day - or at least wish they were? Maybe he's messing with you? Maybe he likes the poetic effect? Do you have a source for any of this? 71.112.152.223 17:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC) KD Jones

OK... maybe I was a little out of line there.

I went and did some further poking, and Danny Carey's own site certainly does slather on the occult stuff. I suppose that would be a citation. But it's still really hard to tell what's toungue-in-cheek and what's not... given that the references are drawn from sources so very common to pop culture views of the occult (Alister Crowley and the whole hoaxy Bérenger Saunière thing). It's hard to imagine his leanings staying so close to the surface of popularly known occultish stuff, given his apparent intellect and drive, unless he's playing along with the obscuring nature of the official Tool site. Then again, maybe he's dead serious. But, yeah... the appearance is there at a glance, but probably needs to be addressed more cautiously, for lack of any public evidence to show that any of this is serious, rather than being more Tool-ish blowing of smoke regarding personal histories and interests in order to keep the focus "on the music." 71.112.152.223 06:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC) KD Jones

Just to give a general response, yeah, there's a lot of work to do to this article and all the other band member's articles. It's going to be hard because individual band members don't really give a ton of information about themselves. I haven't seen a lot of interest in cleaning out these articles, but there will be interest eventually. In the meantime, anything that you see that is wrong or needs fixed, please do so. If there is any "iffy" info in the article, add a {{fact}} to it. Thanks for the message, someone will straighten this article out eventually. daveh4h 07:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Tabla on "Right In Two"

It is a tabla right? During that percussion solo in the song. Just double checking because I believe that it should go under the list of songs where he uses the tabla. "This is especially apparent on tracks such as "Disposition" (Lateralus) or "Intension" (10,000 Days), for which Carey has recorded the tabla parts himself in studio." I think the tablas are more apparent on Right In Two than in Intension. Not that it should replace it, just added. Thudunder 04:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The Pirates (Trivia section)

I'm fairly sure noone gives a shit about The Pirates apart from The Pirates. 218.215.148.223 13:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Setup mistakes

Danny uses both his Ebony and Paiste set on tours in the same configuration. 8x8, 10x10 toms 14x14 and 16x16 floors along with a 24x18 and 22x18 bass drum. I have seen his Paiste kit up close and the bass drums are two different sizes. Sonor doesn't make any bubinga sets anymore and his Designer bass drums are made of beech. The Dry Heavy Ride and NoVo china are both 22" and can be special ordered by anyone, Paiste just recently changed all artist setup pages to show standard sizes. He also switches between drums in Volto! and Tool gigs. I've seen him play a Tool show with the Paiste kit, Sonor kit, and the Sonor with a roto tom instead of a 10" tom and an acrylic gong bass instead of a 16" floor. During Volto! gigs he changes setups all the time, he's used a Bruford roto tom kit, the Designer toms with Paiste bass drums, and the bubinga kit from Ænema. And he's used various Tama snares. Where would I put all that? PÆonU (talk) 22:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Holomorph, Danny has used different sized bass drums for a long time now. Everytime I've seen him with Volto! he has a 22" and 24". I saw his bronze bass drums from a foot away and they were different sized so I'm completely sure he uses a 22" and 24". I've seen him 3 times during the 10,000 Days tour and every kit has the 22" 24" setup. If you look at any of his kits you'll see that they're different sized kicks.PÆonU (talk) 05:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I also reverted an edit by 74.62.29.250 about Danny getting a kick from Eddie Van Halen's unbuilt Paiste set and having 12x12 and 18x18 toms on his tour kit, but not using them with Tool. No sources of course. PÆonU (talk) 07:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Personal Section

The personal section looks quite a bit like a trivia/miscellaneous section.

The info is still relevant, and having a section titled "personal", I have no objection to...but perhaps this could be changed so it isn't in a list format. Right now it looks like it used to be a trivia section and all someone did was change it from trivia to personal.

Aspiring chemist (talk) 01:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

well i think it could be safely removed without affecting the article in any way. --144.36.234.233 (talk) 04:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Drum Dimensions

Cylinder measurements are stated as depth by diameter. The dimensions recorded under "Current Tour Setup" are backwards on the snare and bass drums. 14x8" should be 8x14", etc.

Arrest

an IP and an individual user keeps removing the sourced section about Carey's arrest claiming it is "not relevant to the article". It was reported by several large publications, including Tmz, rolling stone, USA today, billboard and many more. The administrator who locked the page did so after the user removed it once again. Wikipedia is not censored, and WP:WELLKNOWN states ""If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it." The user who removed the information has provided no argument as to why they think it's "not relevant" to the article.RF23 (talk) 03:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ringerfan23: The charges were dropped in January 2023. There seems little justification for a separate Legal issues section, given it details only one arrest and the charges were dropped. I have added an 'Undue weight' tag -- Gilbert.or.george (talk) 12:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Arrest (again)

The article says he was charged. A year after the alleged offence took place, is there an update on the progress of the case? --Viennese Waltz 08:26, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Viennese Waltz: The charges were dropped in January 2023. There seems little justification for the Legal issues section, given the section details only one arrest and the charges were dropped. I have added an 'Undue weight' tag -- Gilbert.or.george (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. --Viennese Waltz 12:53, 20 July 2023 (UTC)