Talk:Daniel Santos (singer)

This article deserves better treatment

Folks, Daniel Santos was essentially blacklisted in his own country for most of his life due to his political views, but in the rest of Latin America, Daniel Santos was pretty much a "sacred monster", as the proverbial phrase states. He was extremely popular in Mexico, Cuba and Colombia, even well into his old age; there's even an old TVE documentary on Veracruz, Mexico that showcases the Sonora Matancera and Daniel Santos rather prominently; the documentary's script essentially describes the life of the city's citizens on one particular day, centered around their expectations on the Santos performance that night. That's how important he was.

Santos was named "The Boss" ("El Jefe") long before anyone dared to name Bruce Springsteen (or even Daddy Yankee) with the term. Based on all of this, he deserves better; that's why I raised his importance level to Mid instead of Low. In theory, if we're to believe his popularity outside Puerto Rico and the two major books written about him, he'd probably deserve a High importance mark.

However, one thing that will make this hard to research is, precisely, the grandiosity of Santos' excesses during his lifetime. To me, he's like the patron saint of badasses, and (yet) at the same time, a respectful performer onstage who did care a lot about his audience. Of course, this means that a lot of fables and stories about Daniel will be hard to believe, while true (indeed). For example, the "loan shark" incident (the 52 hits with a lead pipe) I heard the guy himself tell it in television, when I was a child. There's obviously no way to know if this was an exaggeration of a true incident, but he did have a stab wound scar in his body or two...

BTW, Santos himself claims that Pedro Flores wrote "Linda" for him in 1956, not 1942, according to a YouTube video I just saw...Demf 11:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I will work with the article as soon as his boxing counterpart passes GA review, I just finished rewritting that article from a lowly stub into a GA contender (in less than a day hahaha!) so if everything goes right my priorities would be to take the following articles to GA in order, Roberto Clemente (December) -> Daniel Santos (boxer) (January) -> Daniel Santos (singer) (February). - Caribbean~H.Q. 09:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

References needed

• "forced him to shine shoes because of his family's poverty". Done**DISPUTE. The reference does not confirm the statement-Removed. Please do not repost. --Danilu Santos
• "Unable to secure employment he returned to Manhattan". Rephrased. I rephrased the sentence. I couldn't find an exact source, but it seems to me that it must be question of rephrasing the sentence posted by the editor and would most likely full under this inline. reference: veinte y cinco
• "Among the songs he recorded were: "Perdon"; "Amor"; "El Ultimo Adios" and "Borracho no Vale".Done
• "The song became an instant hit".Done
• "The song has a thinly veiled reference to Linda's actual nationality".Eliminated couldn't find proper reference. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... I saw a television interview where Flores himself mentioned this... Demf (talk) 12:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

These will help your GA review. :)--andreasegde (talk) 19:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Good work. Look at the other sentences and it will pass.--andreasegde (talk) 21:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What about the stabbing in New York because of a $52 debt and his consequent revenge by hitting the loaner 52 times with a lead pipe? I suspect there might be a reference to that somewhere... Demf (talk) 12:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

GA on hold

• "On 1942, Santos was drafted" - on --> in? Appears a few times
• References need publisher info
• The lead should be split into 2 paragraphs, IMO
• "having more than one consecutively" - consecutively --> at the same time...I think that's what you're trying to say
• "Santos' last matrimony" - use marriage; consistent wording throughout
• "Although he was doing well in school his father took him out of school when he was in the fourth grade and forced him to shine shoes because of his family's poverty." - needs ref
• "In 1924, his family moved to New York City" - don't wlink standalone years
  • "In 1938, Santos was working at the Cuban Casino Cabaret in Manhattan" - again
• ""Te Quiero, Dijiste" ("You said 'I Love You'")." - italics not needed, just quotation marks (occurs throughout)
• "singer at WKAQ, which was one of the island's main radio stations" - replace "which was" with a semi colon, and get rid of the full stop after the ref
• "Career as a musician" - just make it "Music career"
• "He did a little bit of everything," - not every encyclopediac text
• "He was subsequently sent to Kentucky," - this is a bit confusing since half the last para discussed his singing style
• "Later that year he visited the Dominican Republic, where he had legal problems and was in jail briefly" - can you expand on what happened?
• "was titled Bigote de Gato" - needs quotation marks (for the rest of the paragraph)
• "where after trying to defend himself he accidentally injured a woman" - reword --> "where he injured a woman while trying to defend himself", perhaps?
• "On 1954, he returned to" - on --> in
• A few of the Francisco José Correa Bustamante refs could be grouped together?
• "Daniel Santos died on 27 November 1992..." - this paragraph is unsourced
• "by Luis Rafael Sánchez[24]" - a comma before the ref

You can tell it wasn't written by someone who has English as their first language, but it's still a nice read. :) Please leave a note on my talk page when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 07:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Will work with them shortly, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 21:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Done

• I made all of the fixes. I will let User:Caribbean H.Q. post the publisher info. Tony the Marine (talk) 22:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I will add the publisher info tommorow, since the book is not currently in my house, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 00:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Done, the publisher of all references are in place, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Passed. Sorry, fell off my watchlist. Just remembered it now! dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 07:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I sometimes miss items in my watchlist as well, thanks for the review. - Caribbean~H.Q. 12:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Dispute

How Come all Nationalist Member Articles are being written from a Pro-Statehood Party point of view? (Spacestoned (talk) 06:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC))

WP:NPOV, perhaps? I wrote 80% of the Ramón Emeterio Betances one, and I'm no statehooder... yes, you have to grin and bear it sometimes... ;-) Demf (talk) 12:46, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I am his daughter, Danilu Santos. The date of death November 27, 1992 is accurate and should not be disputed. I do agree with the political view information mentioned in this wiki bio. It accurately depicts my father's views on sovereignty, and Cuba. I would only disagree with the talk page comment he was "essentially blacklisted" in PR. While his nationalist views were less popular during his politically active years, many agreed with his sentiment concerning autonomy of the island; others disagreed. We lived in PR and did not experience political persecution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.222.142 (talk) 13:38, 21 August 2016 (UTC)