Talk:Daniel Radcliffe/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Archived talk page

I have archived the talk page, as it was incredibly long and had comments dating back to 2003. I believe, for the most part, I did it right (it was my first time doing this), but if you know of a better way, please feel free to modify as necessary. Anakinjmt 02:52, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Video Game

Daniel did not do the voice over of Harry for the fifth Harry Potter game. He was busy doing Equus. Adam Sapp did Harry's voice in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.191.171.66 (talk) 02:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Personal Life section

Read on a newspaper, Paparazzi section and I've found an article about a breakup between Radcliffe and another British actress, Laura O'Toole about 4 years older then him. I am very surprised that despite that being highly publicized in the UK (and also the US) there is no mention about the relationship even I've several TV reports on questioning about Radcliffe and relationships and stuff like that. I guess maybe part because O'Toole, despite playing on Equus (so as Radcliffe), doesn't have an article. But should it be mentionned in this article since most relations involving celebrities when being actor or whatever are mentionned. I've only seen a few weeks ago about being a rumor, but apparently there was a relationship between the two British actors.--JForget 23:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

No proper source for Daniel Radcliffe having any relationship :) Unless you can cite it, of course... BlackPearl14 _{Miss Granger}\^{Pirate Lord-ess} 03:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Checking up Google typing Radcliffe O'Toole, gave me this as first source and it's about their split.--JForget 00:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's strange. And was there any other source than just this? You can put it in, but remember to put a <*ref>(url)</*ref> tag (w/o the stars) right next to it. I'll have to look that up to make sure it isn't something that was posted in a rumour newspaper. BlackPearl14^{Pirate Lord-ess} 04:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I've added mention of it with a source, apparently they never made it public although there were rumours/reports since November 2007. Actually, there are numerous articles (okay probably some of them are copy and paste from the same news agency via several sites). One of the articles also mentions a relation between Hermione (Emma Watson) and rugby star Tom Ducker (although the latter doesn't even had an article tooJForget 18:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

That's fine; just forget about the Emma Watson and Tom Ducker thing, it's never happened. BlackPearl14^{Pirate Lord-ess} 04:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Until some of the non-gossip sites have an article on that, there's no problem to remove it for now. Anyways, O'Toole doesn't even had an article as of now. Although, I may be wrong but she may pass WP:BIO.--JForget 02:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

It makes zero difference how many sources are linked to for such a piece of information - the info itself is the stuff of gossip columns, so it would never belong in a proper encyclopaedia entry. Including this trivial info adds no value. If anything, it reduces this 'Daniel Radcliffe' page as a pathetic joke of an encyclopaedia entry. Daniloc (talk) 01:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

For your information, I talked to him about just that on his talk page. In addition, the "so wants Jessica thing" (unless it's referring to you) is not true. Sorry. BlackPearl14^{Hermione Granger's Muggle Alias} 03:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering if the kiss he received from presenter James Corden when accepting his Whatsonstage award is notable enough to be included. There has been a lot of talk about it, particularly with the fact that he seemed to be nearly attacked with it or rather if it was planned as a publicity stunt.

His representative said that Radcliffe wasn't embarrassed, saying, "It was a spontaneous gesture that was very funny. Daniel took it in the light-hearted spirit it was intended."

He also bought another apartment in New York for USD$4.9 million. More information about it in the reference.

James Ryan (talk) 23:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Contributors really need to understand what is typically included in a biographical entry in an encyclopaedia. I'm afraid that excludes a lot of trivial information that would be found on fan websites or blogs, and the tabloids. As it is, there's too much of that stuff already, threatening to debase Wikipedia into Wikinquirer. Please don't add any more. Daniloc (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the placement of mentioning his real estate purchases directly after a quote about his not being extravagant... this seems unfair to me, because it appears to infer that he was actually extravagant after saying he would not be. But he purchased a place in Manhattan to live in while he worked there. The sources regarding both real estate purchases indicate that he purchased one as an income property and a second one as a residence while he was working nearby, which is perfectly reasonable and not at all uncommon for a working actor with his income. There are far more expensive places in Manhattan he could have purchased if he really wanted to be extravagant, as it is one of the most expensive cities in the world. I would like to see this adjusted to be more fair and neutral than it currently is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.54.250.11 (talk) 00:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The crapola about the bands he likes (which all happen to be crap, which is neither here nor there) is not suitable material for Wikipedia. I really wish all the teeny-boppers would stick to the fanclub websites. You can tell the author wanted to add lots more crapola from Teen Beat, but restrained himself, thank God! Emmetlang (talk) 20:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

hes jewish and it's said that he put on teffilin with the help of classmate then "colev friedman" now a religious student part of the chabad sect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.6.67.14 (talk) 21:33, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Health Concerns

From Wikipedia:Verifiability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V) 'Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy'.

By that standard, information that originates from the following article from thesun.co.uk does not qualify. Not only does that tabloid have no reputation for fact-checking, its reputation is for outright fabrication.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/article924465.ece

24.86.253.211 (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The Sun is a good enough source. faithless (^speak) 02:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

You must have tongue firmly in cheek, as the Wiki article on The Sun you reference has this to say under 'Sensationalism':

More generally, the Murdoch Sun has been criticised since its launch for its sensationalism, which on occasion has led it to publish stories on the most spurious evidence, and for its focus on celebrities for its news and feature coverage. It has regularly been accused of appealing to the lowest common denominator and dumbing down public discourse.

The paper's knack for sensationalism doesn't mean it can't be used as a source. Perhaps the sentence could be rewritten to something like, "The Sun reports that Radcliffe..."? It's not the New York Times or BBC, but it is the most widely read newspaper in the English-speaking world, and a story about an actor's smoking habits isn't exactly a WP:BLP violation. For our purposes, The Sun is a reliable source. faithless (^speak) 04:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. If you look at the archived talk page here, you will also find under 'Equus' another discussion where tabloid as source was considered inadequate for reliability.

Beyond that, thesun.co.uk had also reported Radcliffe was under such a serious threat that he was under guard by ex-SAS agents, and yet within two weeks they also published the article about his smoking habit which included the detail of him smoking more because he's out and about with smokers Stephen Fry and Kevin Spacey. Not even bothering to explain the contradiction that he is so seriously threatened, yet he's out on the town, they also reported within the same period that Radcliffe requested the ex-SAS agents guard his dogs - even for The Sun, so obviously outlandish, unless one is gullible enough to believe it isn't an insult to ex-SAS professionals to ask they risk their lives for dogs.

If that sort of reporting doesn't make it apparent that it's silly season at the Sun on Radcliffe, then why bother pretending there are even any standards on what can be included in articles here?

Last point: One would think with a smoking habit like that, there'd be more than one tabloid who can unearth someone willing to talk for a bit of cash. And yet no other like story from any other source.

I'm afraid you're on seriously shaky ground if you're trying to argue the reliability of The Sun.

Where to start - I get that you don't like the paper and/or don't consider it reliable, and I'm not arguing against that, per se. And if this was anything even slightly controversial, I'd agree with you. But the level of reliability required of a source is directly proportional to seriousness the assertion it is sourcing. If Radcliffe came out as a gay, it would need very solid citations, i.e. the New York Times, BBC, etc. A person's cigarette smoking habit, on the other hand, is such a minor issue that we don't require nearly the degree of quality sourcing. As it's often put, "exceptional claims require exceptional sources." We both agree that The Sun is in no way an exceptional source but, as it's backing up such an insignificant assertion, its use is acceptable here. The more important issue as I see it is whether or not his cigarette smoking warrants a mention in the article at all. faithless (^speak) 08:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

While I agree with your ending statement, it is not what you have been arguing before this. Secondly I doubt you'll find much support for the idea that claiming a pack a day smoking habit for an eighteen-year-old is 'such an insignificant assertion'. Lastly, you know very well even if (and that's IF) it truly were an insignificant statement, it still wouldn't pass muster if there were no citation. You are arguing that one very highly dubious citation is sufficient, as if the difference between zero and sketchy represented the upholding of some worthy standard.

"Promotional photo"

The nude photo of Dan is a fake. It is real down until about the lower torso. The bottom has been doctored. I have seen the source photo of the bottom as proof, and I can find it if need be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.59.112 (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Please do find it, and direct us to it. Kingturtle (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Do we really need a naked picture of him on Wikipedia? There are enough nude pictures on this website to fill a book :-S. Bear in mind the amount of people of all ages who will read this article. Lradrama 16:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia. The play Radcliffe chose to perform (to wide acclaim) is a terrific work. He is proud of this work and he is making great strides in his career with it. Kingturtle (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Definitely NOT WORK SAFE, but here you go, and as you can see, this guy's legs have been chopped off and reversed to be included in Dan's photo: Here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.59.112 (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

We have an audience to think of, not Dan himself. Lradrama 16:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I know my concern is for the audience, since they were being given misinformation on this site with that picture there. I could really care less about seeing Dan Radcliffe nude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.59.112 (talk) 19:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

A nude photo is somewhat inappropriate on this site, but couldn't we have one where he doesn't have his mouth open like he was talking or something? I agree with Lradrama. 96.242.5.155 (talk) 15:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Religion

As Radcliffe said in an interview that even though he has a Jewish mother, he isn't religious himself, shouldn't he really be take off the Jewish Actors category?

'Jewish' is a race as well as a religion, and those of appropriate Jewish ancestry are considered Jews even if they don't believe in the religious aspects. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

He's also stated that he is "very proud of being Jewish" (talking, I guess, in the ethnic sense). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 16:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

'Jewish' is not a race but an Ethnic group. An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed [Wikipedia, Ethnic group]. White is a race, but stuff like Latin or Latino, Jewish, Muslim or Hispanic are not races. Are you American? Americans usually have problems with the term race. It's not a criticism though. --Andrewire (talk) 13:22, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Your offensive characterization of a nation of 300 million people is not only wholly irrelevant to the discussion at hand, but also entirely inappropriate anywhere on Wikipedia. Please refrain from making jingoistic remarks against your fellow editors in the future. faithless (^speak) 13:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I said it wasn't a criticism or anything. If you took it like an offense that's your problem, not mine. I am entitled to my opinion based on the fact that people in America do not understand things like this: Latin or Latino refers to people from a country were the language comes form Latin, therefore it's an ethnicity. Most of the time you see American people calling Latins or Latinos "a race". Just like the fellow editor referred to the Jewish people. I don't think this is irrelevant because that user is stating that Daniel Radcliffe belongs to the "Jewish race", something that does not exist. Finally, I appreciate your elaborated use of the English Language, but I would also appreciate if you restrain from using words like jingoistic where it doesn't make any sense. --Andrewire (talk) 17:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Saying "no offense" does not give you free reign to make blatantly inappropriate and offensive remarks, and you can't insult someone and then blame them for being offended. Furthermore, your assertion that Americans are ignorant of the rest of the world is no more true or acceptable than saying that the Irish are drunks, Jews are cheap, the French are cowards, or any number of other disgusting stereotypes. You can think whatever you want, no matter how ridiculous, but Wikipedia is not a place to espouse your prejudices. You disagreed with something that one editor said, and therefore think it's acceptable to say that 300 million people are stupid ("the fact that people in America do not understand things")? This is so absurd that I don't think I even have to go on. And I don't know what it is about my use of the English language that you find "elaborate," but that is neither here nor there. You're making a sweepingly negative generalization about the population of another country, judging yourself to be superior; I'd say that that does a fine job of illustrating the "attitude of belligerent nationalism" which the Encyclopædia Britannica defines as jingoism. This page is to discuss improvements to the article for Daniel Radcliffe, not a place to attack the nationality of other editors with absurdly bigoted claims. Let's focus on that and leave the anti-Americanism at the door. faithless (^speak) 01:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Anti-Americanism? belligerent nationalism? 300 million people are stupid? I beg your pardom but I never said any of tose remarks. Those are the product of your prejudiced mind. You don't know what you are talking about, obviously. I am entitled to my opinion -like it or not- and if you have a problem with that, I can't do anything. I didn't even mention the term 'ignorant'. I referred to an issue in Mr. Radcliffe's page, an affirmation made by another editor that is not true [saying that Jewish is a race]. You clearly do not understand the term jingoism. I never wrote a word about my country or any other national affiliations that I may have, therefore, there's no attitude of belligerent nationalism. You should read Wikipedia's article about the term: Early uses of the term in the USA were connected to the foreign policy of Theodore Roosevelt, who was frequently accused of jingoism. I am very sorry tat you have to insult me just because you disagree with me. Perhaps you should understand that people from other countries outside the United States have rights as well and we do not have to agree with you just because you are from America. If you want to keep changing my statements I recommend you read the terms of use of Wikipedia. --Andrewire (talk) 08:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Absurd to read an admin user interfere in a race-related issue solely when the question about the nationality of one editor is questioned politely. The elephant in the room, the whole "Are Jews and Latins a race or an ethnic group" deserves no mention - what really had to be stopped immediately was the belligerant jingo talk and ranting hate speech in "Americans usually have problems with the term race". Seems to me that this Admin really is American and wants to prove that he does not have any problems with _that_ word. Ironic, funny, entertaining. Great intervention, faithless wonderboy, 5 points! --92.229.22.124 (talk) 03:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Should we realy have "nude" linked? Pirakafreak24 ( Leave a Message ) I can sing! Ha!. 05:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

• 'Jewish' is a race as well as a religion, and those of appropriate Jewish ancestry are considered Jews even if they don't believe in the religious aspects. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:50, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Jews not are a race, Judaism is a religion and not a race!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.71.54.68 (talk)

No. See Jew. Can we drop this now? faithless (^speak) 01:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ethnic Jew yeah, but not a religious Jew (as you can tell by viewing the photos)Tobri (talk) 19:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Radcliffe claims to be an Atheist in this article.

How about we list him as an "Actor of Jewish descent"? That solves the argument. cymru lass ^{(hit me up)}⁄_{(background check)} 02:22, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Why would we do that? (aside from the fact that there's no such category). When asked in an interview "Your mother is Jewish. Do you identify as Jewish yourself?", Radcliffe replied "Absolutely. I really do". Someone can be both Jewish and an atheist (hence the article Jewish atheism). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

In some aspects I would even braoden this to Catholics or Protestantism. There is a very strong cultural factor involved and the matter of personal Faith is only one amongst several issues of self-conscience. --92.229.22.124 (talk) 03:29, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I have heard the term "Cultural Jew" used (by the guy from the group Rush, I believe), meaning someone raised in or connected to Jewish faith/culture. As for a "Jewish Race", what does that make Sammy Davis Junior? (79.190.69.142 (talk)). —Preceding undated comment added 18:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC).

what about Radcliffe laying tefillin according to various repoorts online see - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwLvtmUEdc& and http://www.chabad.info/index.php?url=article_en&id=21317 ? 216.252.82.66 (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Radcliffe Homosexuality Error

It is not confirmed that he is gay. They are rumors only so far and if it was true, the statement needs to be cited. I do not know how to edit this myself, and would rather not get in a debate as I will not be coming back to this page. Someone please fix this error, it's if anything, unfounded until cited. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.98.160.22 (talk) 02:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

december boys info is wrong

in the Stage and screen credits - films section, it states he played Maps an 18 year old orphan. can someone please correct this, as it's wrong. he states in the film that the orphanage make you leave when you are 18, so therefore he can't be 18, as he's still at the orphanage... i can't change it as the page is locked for some reason. 77.97.110.57 (talk) 18:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

No bass playage

He doesn't actually play bass guitar, read here> [1], someone fix this as i can not.Thakmere (talk) 02:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Done All Hallow's (talk) 03:23, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

"His T-shirt was part of the Tsunami Clothes Auction which raised money for the Rebuilding Sri Lanka Organization. He wore the t-shirt during the making of the film, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. These T-shirts were only issued to members of the cast and crew. His shirt raised £520 or $811.80."

This needs to be cited. You cannot state something as fact without citing it, especially not this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shapeshifter309 (talk • contribs) 02:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Pictures uploaded

At the request of 75.47.143.222 (talk · contribs) via a Files For Upload request here, I have uploaded 12 photographs from flickr, and put them here for the consideration of the article editors;

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Best,  Chzz  ►  18:24, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Removal of 'The Journey is the Destination' from film credits - Why??

The article mentions that Daniel Radcliffe will play the role of Dan Eldon in 'The Journey is the Destination' (and this news has also been confirmed), but mysteriously, the same film (that was previously mentioned as part of his film credits) has now been removed. Could someone please explain why 'The Journey is the Destination' has been removed from Radcliffe's film credits?? Thanks. 59.184.131.213 (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Because the film is not in production yet. The people who want to make the film approached him, and he expressed interest, but it hasn't gone any farther than that so far; they are still trying to find backers and get the project going, etc. This is a typical situation for small independent film companies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.54.250.11 (talk) 23:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Mnm447, 2 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} instead of writing Arthor Kipps there is a mistake in the women in the black portion of daniel radcliffe biography. thanks

Mnm447 (talk) 16:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done The editor meant that the character in Woman in Black should be Arthur Kipps, not Blake Miller. I've made the change, although I still don't understand where Blake Miller came from.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:25, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Radcliffe's acting influences

I don't want the article about Daniel Radcliffe to sound like a trivia section, mentioning every tiny detail about his life. But shouldn't there be at least a mention of his biggest influences as far as acting is concerned? He seems to mention (fellow Potter co-star) Gary Oldman quite frequently in interviews. [2] "...of course I was glad that (Sirius Black's role) went to Gary Oldman, because as you all know he's my true love." [3]

Would it be fair to say that Gary Oldman has probably had the biggest influence on Radcliffe's career? [4] [5] [6]

Thanks. 59.184.179.203 (talk) 04:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Daniel On The Simpsons

On November 7 2010 Daniel Radcliffe was "Edmund" in this years Treehouse Of Horror on The Simpsons. The section of the episode is called "Tweenlight". If someone could please add that to the article (I would but I dont know how =P) Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.123.253.226 (talk) 05:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Height of actor Daniel Radcliffe

Adding height to the article will improve wikipedia, a lot of people search for actor's height, and wikipedia is a nice place to get this information from.

Height is a parameter of body, nothing offensive and etc., it's a FACT that he has this height.

Move back Edited-Changes about his height. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.118.228.2 (talk) 08:05, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

 His height is not noteworthy or relevant to his notability.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Daniel Radcliffe/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Monkeymanman (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Reviewer: Artoasis (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   I sampled the career section and spotted the following grammar errors.

   — "Radcliffe opened on 27 February 2007 in a revival of Peter Shaffer's play Equus..."  Done

   — "It was announced in the New York Times on 28 December 2007 that Radcliffe will..."  Done

   — "Radcliffe appeared in the television series Extras as a parody of himself, as well as filming the independent Australian drama December Boys..."  Done

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   — Self-published/unreliable sources: Contact Music, monster and critics, Celebrity Net Worth, DanRadcliffe.com, InterfaithFamily.com, Isbi Schools, Radar Online, Musical Cyberspace

   — "Award" section lacks reference

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   The "Career" section is reasonably focused, but the "Personal life" section is a bit too heavy, with trivial information such as the amount of money his T-shirt raised (£520) or where he spent his 18th birthday and how he "queued up for the autographs" of some players.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   Since it is currently locked, no edit wars are observed.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I think the article still needs a fair amount of work to pass for GA.

Notes

• From the first glance at the refs make sure they are in the correct MOS, i.e. using the same style as much as possible. Also refs that can be found in print (for example papers, magazines) should be in italics, websites should not.  Done
• I would also check that all websites are from recognised reliable sources. I am not too sure about (and perhaps it would be best checking) Radar online, monsters and critics, the daily beast, interfaithfamily, film dates, fandango, hpana (amongst some others)
• make sure that the ref for The Actors' Studio is completed correctly. A link to youtube i not correct. It should inlude the series number, episode and if available (and if you know) the approximate time that the ref is taken from the episode.  Done
• there are no refs in the awards section at all, i do not think this is appropriate for a GA.
• for the quote in the personal life section i dont think it is appropriate to use that convention on a quotation that is that long. Perhaps in line quotation would be better.
• where appropriate, citations should be at the end of sentences.  Done seems to be anyway
• many areas have numerous citations included together when normally one would suffice
• there is one disambig that needs fixing for Gershon. Done removed
• there is a link for jewreview.net that appears to be broken (also is that reliable??)
• has the article been the scene of continued edit wars and vandalism (just wondering if / why semi page protection is required)  Done dont think its a problem
• i am not too sure if the info on what music he likes is totally relavent or if it is all required. (perhaps could be discussed)
• also there seems to be a lot of info on how much money he earns / is worth. Is this relevant for him and is it required in its entirety?

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Daniel Radcliffe/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Artoasis (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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The article has indeed improved a lot from the last time. Nice work. I only sampled the lead section, and will do some copyediting shortly. I plan to deliver my verdict this weekend after a more thorough check. Cheers.--Artoasis (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

   I did some ce for the lead to make it more concise. I also took out the last sentence — Radcliffe is an atheist and also suffers from a mild form of the neurological disorder dyspraxia. An "atheist" and some "neurological disorder" sounded a little weird together. If you think they are essential information for the lead, please consider rewording the sentence before adding it back. I will finish the rest of the article by the weekend.

Thanks! I think the lead looks better now then it did before.

More ce is coming...

OK, all done. Artoasis (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

1. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   May I suggest you convert the BBC link in the EL section to an inline citation? The link does not seem to provide anything EL worthy.

I am not sure what you meant.... Crystal Clear x3 22:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I was referring to this BBC link, pointing to a very short and immature bio. I think it would be better to use it as an inline ref, or simply remove it. Artoasis (talk) 14:22, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Ohh. I agree that the reference should be removed, but when I looked through the Early Life section I couldn't find it. What # is it? Crystal Clear x3 21:52, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. For EL, I meant the External link section, :)

Oh, lol. done Crystal Clear x3 00:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

1. B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

2. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

   Last time there were way too many details in the Personal life section, which was a major sign of a fannish article.

   Much more focused this time.

3. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

4. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

5. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

6. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   I have completed my review with some ce, and all the issues I raised have been addressed by Crystal Clear. Congratulations, it is a GA now, :) --Artoasis (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!!! =) Crystal Clear x3 23:12, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Gay

In a newspaper I read that he is gay. Should be mentioned in the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.0.92.40 (talk) 22:23, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

What newspaper? BOVINEBOY2008 22:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh not this again - it's just the mentality some media/people have that if you support LGBT rights you must be gay yourself, this whole gay rumour is very old, see previous discussions. I don't see anyone claiming Seth MacFarlane is gay? --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 22:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Could a more recent picture of Daniel Radcliffe be used in the info box (taken from the London/NY 'Deathly Hallows Part 2' premieres dated July 2011)?

Hate to be picky, but could a more recent/latest picture of Daniel Radcliffe be used in the info box (from the London/NY 'Deathly Hallows Part 2' premieres, dated July 2011)? The picture in use is from November 2010. Nothing wrong with the present picture, but the July 2011 picture would be the latest one (not to mention, on Rupert Grint's page, a picture from July 2011 is actually present in the info box).

Thanks. 59.184.179.134 (talk) 12:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Uploading images. There are very strict rules regarding image use. If you have an up to date picture of decent quality that meets WP guidelines on image use then it would be a great addition. Monkeymanman (talk) 19:15, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

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The wikipedia articles on Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson.

The wikipedia articles on Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson state that they were age 11, 11 and 9 respectively when cast as their "Harry Potter" characters. Based on the birthdays given in each article a spread sheet will show that at no time are they so aged at the same time. A minor discrepancy but still an error which should be easliy corrected. Jack Bradley (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.120.254 (talk) 20:05, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Grint is the oldest, born in August 1988. Radcliffe is next, born in July 1989. Watson, the youngest, was born in April 1990. The casting began in 1999 and took place over a period of time, and not each member was necessarily cast at the same time. For your theory to be correct, each of them would have to have been cast on the same day. So, it's possible for all three assertions to be correct. If you wish to check each actor and the sources to verify it or debunk the casting age, feel free, but please provide proof (citations) of any mistake.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

GOCE copyedit October 2011

Hi

During the copyedit a few things came to light that may need addressing:

Harry Potter

• "top-grossing foreign opening" - what? I am assuming that someone wrote this from an American perspective.
• If it isn't in italics in the original quote, it shouldn't be italicised in the article.

Personal life

• "He designed a Cu-Bed" - what is a Cu-Bed?
  • I found some more detail and added it. Chaosdruid (talk) 11:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
• "eyeglass" in English the UK is generally a term for a retractable telescope.
• "several thousand dollars" - this implies more than a few, so four or more. As there is no specific number mentioned in the reference I have quoted it directly - "thousands of dollars". I have also added that other items from the show were auctioned off, as well as naming the charitable organisation they were donated to.

I have completed a first run, though I will attempt another later tonight to catch any missed items. Chaosdruid (talk) 17:14, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. If you don't mind, I did fix a couple things, like the two sections that both had the heading of "References", but that was only a couple things. (Plus, I have no idea what a Cu-Bed is, but you can't deny it says that in the source.) MG70 (talk) 22:46, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind at all :¬) Bit miffed I didn't see the double references headers... also unclear how the double s (focussed) and s's remained in there as I thought I had fixed them.

Comma after year - Chicago handbook says no comma. The year is not incidental to the rest of that sentence part, there is also discussion about it here if you wish to read a little more about that. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

@Bbb23 - 1. please read my previous note "eyeglass..." above. Moreover the wikipage is titled "Glasses" and I linked it to differentiate between glasses, the things you drink out of, and glasses, the things you wear to see better with. 2. The comma separates them as they are not really linked-sentence parts. One relates to his religious beliefs, atheist, and one to his heritage, Jewish descent. The Jewish part in that sentence is not referring to his religion as he is an atheist. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

The cited article uses the word "eyeglasses". I don't think we should be wikilinking a common word to make it clear what we're talking about. The text should do that. As for the Jewish sentence, I disagree with your justification. However, I propose a compromise: "Radcliffe has stated he is an atheist, and he is 'very proud of being Jewish.'" Without the "that", the two clauses are independent. Perhaps you can come up with a compromise on the glasses issue to avoid the wikilink and any international confusion.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I cannot agree on removing "that" as "He stated that..." is correct grammar.

Option 1: Moving "that" to the beginning is more correct, leaving it out of the second part is ok, but perhaps including "... Jewish heritage" might be more correct to show the difference between religion and heritage.

Option 2: The two parts are exclusive as they are not talking about the same thing; however, they are both things that he has stated. I think the best way around this is to quote the sentence from The Guardian - "I'm an atheist, but I'm very proud of being Jewish."

I cannot see how calling them glasses is internationally problematic, especially as the wikipage is titled "glasses" and not "eyeglasses". This is an article about an English person and the most common English usage is "glasses" (in fact I have never heard or seen any English person refer to them as eye-glasses). Chaosdruid (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't agree with almost anything you say, but Option 2 for the Jewish/atheist thing is fine (in fact, better). I won't fight you over the glasses thing - it's too silly. BTW, I would be fine with "glasses" but without the wiklink (WP:OVERLINK), but whatever.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:36, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

So option 2 and glasses without linking, thanks for reaching consensus. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. For two editors who clearly don't see eye-to-eye (sorry, just couldn't resist), I think we did pretty well.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I came down with a heavy cold/flu type thing. I am feeling better so will try and get it finished later, once the lemsip takes effect. Chaosdruid (talk) 13:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Daniel Radcliffe nominated for Grammy Award

Daniel Radcliffe has been nominated for a Grammy Award in the category of 'Best Musical Theater Cast Album', for his Broadway play 'How To Succeed in Business Without Really Trying.' The official nomination credit reads as follows: How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (Decca): John Larroquette & Daniel Radcliffe, principal soloists; Robert Sher, producer [7]

Could someone please add the above information to his page? Thanks. 59.184.166.37 (talk) 19:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)