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A news item involving Daniel Berrigan was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 4 April 2016.

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Nobel Peace Prize

Daniel and his brother Philip were... twice nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Being nominated for the Peace Prize is an honor, but it is not official and not necessarily prestigious. Any national legislator or about a third of the university professors in the world can make a nomination, and there have been as many as 140 some years. Nominators are requested to keep their nominations secret, so it's only those wishing publicity who make announcements. Altogether, I see no reason to keep it. No offense to the subject, this is a general Nobel Peace Prize "nominees" issue. -Willmcw 03:51, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Did they or did they not get nominated? If they did, mention it; otherwise don't. 218.170.156.153 07:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Nobel Committee doesn't disclose the names of nominees, only of laurates. RossPatterskon 20:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This simply isn't nearly important enough for the lede. For one, it's not cited. Secondly, it isn't confirmed by the Nobel committee. Third, it could come from literally thousands of people around the world. If the standard for inclusion in the lede is "did they or did they not" then I would suggest we add to the lede that Dan Berrigan ate eggs for breakfast or had an essay written about him by Robert Doran. R3D October (talk) 06:51, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notre Dame vs. Jesuits

Please explain the implication that a lifelong devotee of Notre Dame might not become a Jesuit. Would one join another order? Attend the University of Notre Dame? Does this refer to the Virgin Mary? Please make it clear for non-Catholics.

Berrigan "served" time at Berea College

My senior year at Berea College, Daniel Berrigan had just been "sentenced" to teach gratis for a year (or was it a semester?) at Berea College, a sentence he pretty gladly accepted. Perhaps the author of this article could include this interesting fact about Berrigan's life? I was very upset that I was graduating and so could not take his class, but I was able to meet with him in a coffee shop on campus. Fascinating personality to go with a tremendous personal hisotry of activism and authorship. Also, you've left off his excellent book, The Dark Night of Resistance (1971).Soltera 18:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

This article is peppered with bias. It serves to do nothing but trumpet the greatness of Daniel Berrigan. Wikipedia's goal is not to cast either a white or black light on a given subject, but rather a gray one. I think any reasonable and rational wiki user can quickly recognize the absolute lack of neutrality here. If for some reason you cannot, let me know and I'll compose a list. Nibblesworth 04:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to fix it. -Will Beback · † · 05:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The facts are clearly presented and referenced. Phrases like "illegally trespassed" are used. So I disagree. I've removed the tag. RossPatterson 20:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How can a guy that "manufactures homemade napalm" be considered "non-violent"?DesScorp (talk) 17:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps becuase the napalm was used only to destroy draft files in a demonstration, not to hurt or kill anyone. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 17:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citations Needed for Material

I deleted this:

Howard Zinn, professor emeritus at Boston University, invited Berrigan to accompany him on a trip to Hanoi to negotiate the release of three U.S. pilots held prisoner by the North Vietnamese. Although the mission had a high chance of success, it was opposed by the FBI on the grounds that it violated their policy of non-negotiation with North Vietnam. J. Edgar Hoover went so far as to publicly call Zinn and Berrigan "traitors". U.S. planes even bombed locations where they were scheduled to be. Despite the opposition, three pilots were returned home. They were the first American POWs released unharmed by the North Vietnamese.

In order for this to be NPOV, the author needs to provide citations, and not original research. If you can provide citations, we still need to adjust the wording to balance it out. Nibblesworth 06:48, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cornell

I know that Berrigan held a position at Cornell University in the late 1960s before he went into hiding from the FBI in 1970. Not sure about the exact dates or job title (Catholic Chaplain?), nor do I have a source. Any help would be appreciated. Notmyrealname 22:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Found this source [1] and added it in. Notmyrealname 02:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relative: Daniel Berrigan has a neice Frida Berrigan who lives in New York City and is a writer and peace activist. She is a Senior Policy Research Associate with the Wold Policy Institute in New York City and is affiliated with Johan House which was founded by her father Phillip Berrigan, Brother of Daniel Berrigan. http See ://www.jonahhouse.org/frida_index.htm ww.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/biofb.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avunculator (talk • contribs) 18:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prison term

"In 1967, Phillip was arrested for non-violent protest and sentenced to six years in prison." No-one gets six years' prison for non-violent protest per se. What was he actually convicted for? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 01:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This was the height of the Vietnam War era. Is it really so hard to believe that a country that would forcibly compel and conscript its citizens for an armed conflict might be a tad overzealous in its prosecution of the opponents of said conscription?

Also, here: "criminal violation of laws against willfully destroying United States property, mutilating public records, and hindering the administration of the Selective Service Act" [the draft]

Read more: U.S. v. Berrigan: 1968 - Philip And Daniel Berrigan Stand Trial, Suggestions For Further Reading - Selective, Berrigans, Service, and War - JRank Articles https://law.jrank.org/pages/3181/U-S-v-Berrigan-1968.html#ixzz6td7svKQJ Wynne0 (talk) 16:12, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Father Daniel Berrigan

Daniel Berrigan is referred to as Father Daniel Berrigan in the photo caption, but nowhere else. This should be changed for uniformity's sake. --Slowlikemolasses (talk) 17:50, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Current Status as Priest

In line with the preceding observation, the article needs more information on Berrigan's current status as a priest. Is this felon still in good standing with the Society of Jesus?John Paul Parks (talk) 01:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard

The "radical priest" undoubtedly refers to a priest like Daniel Berrigan, but the song is fiction; what evidence is there that Paul Simon specifically meant Daniel Berrigan by the "radical priest"? Can you find something to that effect said or written by Paul Simon?HowardJWilk (talk) 03:46, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Middle name

What does J stand for? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph. — Wylie pedia 04:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I was totally wondering the same thing. Is there a cite that we can use? -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 04:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Source needed that the song "The Hammer Has to Fall" is about the Plowshares 8

I had to remove the following item from the "In Media" section because it needs a citation.

Charlie King's song, "The Hammer Has to Fall," from his album, "Vaguely Reminiscent" examines the motivations of the Plowshares 8 (which included Berrigan and his brother Philip) in damaging nuclear weapons with sledgehammers.^{[citation needed]}

I've spent a few hours over the course of the past 2 days trying to locate a source, including the singer's website, which is having networking problems. There's a problem with its Server. Anyhow if you can find the source, please return this item to the "In media" section with the appropriate citation. Christian Roess (talk) 01:09, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

The new photo is sort of terrible. Could we either revert to the prior one or find another more flattering one? -- BrillLyle (talk) 21:09, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quote

What the hell is the quote box doing in the opening paragraph? Are we starting this Wikia shit where every article has to begin with a quote? -- Imladros (talk) 17:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Agee, but... maybe next time just move it down yourself? Takes the same amount of time in posting here. -- BrillLyle (talk) 18:00, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Record Albums

He also has three record albums according to Discogs 2607:FEA8:10E0:1A00:D539:D37F:1F7C:46C3 (talk) 22:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Photo in "Death" section

This photo is uncaptioned and dated October 2006; Berrigan died months prior. Who is in this photo? Why is it used on this page? Wynne0 (talk) 15:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Time magazine

on the cover of Time magazine,^[1]

I have taken this from the intro because it didn't fit there. In fact, it was proceeded by a fullstop (period). Maybe someone can place it somewhere if they can work out somewhere appropriate. Jack Upland (talk) 02:06, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Rebel Priests: The Curious Case of the Berrigans". Time. January 25, 1971. Cover. Archived from the original on July 24, 2019. Retrieved May 1, 2016.

[Time-Cover-1971-1] "Rebel Priests: The Curious Case of the Berrigans". Time. January 25, 1971. Cover. Archived from the original on July 24, 2019. Retrieved May 1, 2016.

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