Talk:Dan Barrett

Requested move 7 November 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 11:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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Dan Barrett (musician, born 1980) → Dan Barrett – Primary topic per pageviews. Initially at the non-dab'd name but was moved, citing it needed disambiguating from Dan Barrett (musician, born 1955). It's now been several months and this is clearly the only Dan Barrett that gets viewed. Anarchyte (talk) 13:38, 7 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:23, 14 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 23:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. There are four men named "Dan Barrett" listed upon the Daniel Barrett disambiguation page, with insufficient indication that renown of the musician born in 1980 has reached such a level as to overwhelm the combined notability of the remaining three men. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 18:10, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

  The 1980-born musician has received 12,793 view since July 2 (the day after the page was moved). In the same timespan, the other three men received a combined 894 views. Further, since 1 July 2015:

  • Dan Barrett (coach): 1,337 views.
  • Dan Barrett (musician, born 1955): 589 views.
  • Dan Barrett (politician): 5,103 views.

  This means since 2015, the other three saw just over half (7029) of what the 1980-born musician saw in four months. Anarchyte (talk) 10:07, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Clear case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by usage. Since the page move on July 2, the 1980-born musician has received more than ten times as many average daily pageviews as all other "Dan Barrett"s combined. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:31, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose primary (doesn't clear Daniels who may be Dans by WP:PT2 at all), but move to Dan Barrett (rock musician) (and Dan Barrett (musician, born 1955) to Dan Barrett (jazz musician)) or other modifier preferable to year. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:03, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

  @Hameltion: Much like the pageviews linked above, all other entries on Daniel Barrett receive less page views (since July 2):

  • Danny Barrett (American football): 4,464 views
  • Daniel Barrett (footballer): 101 views
  • Danny Barrett (rugby union): 1,423 views
  • Daniel J. Barrett: 1,969 views
  • Daniel Barrett (visual effects supervisor): 573 views

  There are no articles that deny a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC move here. Daniel v Dan is enough to mitigate disambiguation requirements anyway (WP:NATDAB). Anarchyte (talk) 14:22, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

  PRIMARYTOPIC has two prongs, and I referred to the second: A simple Google search clearly shows there is no main person with the name by long-term significance. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 15:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

  When I google "Dan Barrett" (on private browsing so that my editing here doesn't affect the algorithm) the first results are Enemies List's Instagram and Twitter (founded by Barrett and used as his account), this Wikipedia article, Have a Nice Life songs, and his marketing agency. The vast majority of the images are of Barrett. Only after all of that do I then get Dan Barrett (coach), likely because of geographical relevance. Another tidbit: WikiNav for October shows that only this article was visited from the dab page. I'll note that should this RM fail to gain consensus, I wouldn't be opposed to your secondary option. Anarchyte (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. The difference in usage makes it PTOPIC irrespective of Long-term significance concerns (and probably that's a wash anyway). Per above I'd also support Dan Barrett (musician, born 1955) to be moved to Dan Barrett (jazz musician).  — Amakuru (talk) 15:11, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom; also support Dan Barrett (musician, born 1955) to be moved to Dan Barrett (jazz musician). Darling ☔ (talk · contribs) 15:22, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.