Talk:DI Corporation
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[edit]This company's sole claim to fame is that its stock bumped based on the popularity of its founder's son. This might be worth a mention on Psy's page, but doesn't merit its own article. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:25, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- While DI Corporation cannot be compared with the big players like Google, Apple or Microsoft, it is listed in the Korean Exchange (WP:LISTED) with a market capitalization of 113.5 billion won ($101.29 million) and is the the 459th most valuable stock -A1candidate (talk) 20:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The guideline you cite explicitly states that "Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case." The market capitalization makes it 459th in Korea for now, based solely on this anomalous blip from the owner's son's popularity. Apart from this blip, no one outside of the Korean tech sector might ever have heard of DI. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The next sentence says "However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above". From what I understand from Wiki policy, an organization does not have to repeatedly make the news muliple times in order to achieve notability (unlike biographies). DI Corp also meets the criteria at WP:CORPDEPTH -A1candidate (talk) 21:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing the WP:CORPDEPTH that you speak of. All sources seem to be about this single blip. The basis of any of the WP:N guidelines is the need for verifiable facts from which to build an article. If all we want to say about DI is "their stock jumped based on the popularity of 'Gangnam Style'", we have sufficient verification of that, but that's a pretty paltry article. If we want to cover the company in greater depth, we need more varied sources. If we don't have such sources, then the merge seems to be the best solution. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sources discuss the same event, but in different ways -
- The Economist : "the latest example of Korea’s “theme stock”—the local equivalent of the 17th-century Dutch tulip, Pets.com and the like going into 1999, or the Chinese walnut." (ref)
- Seeking Alpha : South Korea's market regulations prohibit a company's stock from rising or dropping more than 15% in a day, and DI Corp has hit the limit-up consecutively in the last three days sessions.(ref)
- Yahoo!: Korean Regulators disagree with the notion of Psy affecting D I's stock. There are rumors that some people may have colluded to drive up the stock price in order to gain a profit.(ref)
- Also, the fact that the authorities ordered trading in DI shares to be halted for two days is notable because interrupting trading is something that does not usually occur -A1candidate (talk) 21:35, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- All of those sources discuss the same event -- DI's stock blip. The Yahoo article refuting the connection between Psy and the stock blip amounts to little more than rumor mongering. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- The following source doesn't mention anything about its share price: With an establishment date that goes back to 1955/06/10, I think its fair to say that DI Corp is an established company that is notable in its own field and has won numerous domestic awards in the past few years. Also, it seems to me that WP:SINGLEEVENT only applies to people, not organizations -A1candidate (talk) 17:18, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- All of those sources discuss the same event -- DI's stock blip. The Yahoo article refuting the connection between Psy and the stock blip amounts to little more than rumor mongering. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:01, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing the WP:CORPDEPTH that you speak of. All sources seem to be about this single blip. The basis of any of the WP:N guidelines is the need for verifiable facts from which to build an article. If all we want to say about DI is "their stock jumped based on the popularity of 'Gangnam Style'", we have sufficient verification of that, but that's a pretty paltry article. If we want to cover the company in greater depth, we need more varied sources. If we don't have such sources, then the merge seems to be the best solution. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The next sentence says "However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above". From what I understand from Wiki policy, an organization does not have to repeatedly make the news muliple times in order to achieve notability (unlike biographies). DI Corp also meets the criteria at WP:CORPDEPTH -A1candidate (talk) 21:08, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The guideline you cite explicitly states that "Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case." The market capitalization makes it 459th in Korea for now, based solely on this anomalous blip from the owner's son's popularity. Apart from this blip, no one outside of the Korean tech sector might ever have heard of DI. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
I think that A1candidate and I have made our opinions clear. Perhaps it is time for other voices to be heard. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:34, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- Requested input from WP:WikiProject Business. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:59, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
- Seeing as this discussion has died, and reading through the arguments from both sides, I see a lot relating to the notability of the company, but nothing supporting a merge of this to PSY. There is no consensus to merge the article and I'll be removing the tag. If there are still concerns with the article's notability, it should be taken to AFD. Ryan Vesey 02:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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