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Shelburne Museum

After Jarvis died in 1966, was his office dismantled and shipped to the Shelburne Museum, and is it still displayed as a "19th Century Doctor's Office"? Badagnani 09:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Badagnani (talk) 18:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Junk Science

"More recently, modern science has begun to revisit some of his claims about vinegar,[9] particularly with respect to diabetes, weight loss and insulin resistance.[10]" Yes, and all the results are still showing, junk science. This piece should *not* be encouraging people to put any medical faith in apple cider vinegar. His ideas about acidity / alkalinity in particular are junk science. Please see: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.ca/2008/04/houston-we-have-problem-apple-cider.html and http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html Randal Oulton (talk) 09:36, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that line might have to be removed. Jarvis's ideas were basically quackery and never demonstrated. "D. C. Jarvis, M.D. (1881-1966) wrote that body alkalinity was the principle threat to American health and that honey and apple cider were antidotes. False claims in his book were the basis for an FDA seizure of a product called Honegar." Victor Herbert and Stephen Barrett's The Vitamin Pushers, 1994 p. 323 Skeptic from Britain (talk) 09:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is an old source, but it is useful in describing Jarvis's quack ideas:

"Arthritis, another major medical frontier, also provides fertile ground for dubious theories and dubious books. ln the recent past, two such books have been runaway bestsellers— Arthritis and Common Sense by Don Dale Alexander, and Arthritis and Folk Medicine by Dr. D.C. Jarvis. Both are currently available, the first in a 29th printing put out in November 1967, the latter in the seventh printing of a paperback, dated March 1968. Both books maintain that arthritis is caused or aggravated by faulty diet and can be treated by following special eating regimens. Alexander recommends cod liver oil and orange juice. Jarvis recommends apple cider vinegar, honey, and Lugol's solution (a solution of iodine). Leading medical authorities agree that all of this is nonsense on stilts."

William Sechrist. (1970). Dynamics of Wellness. Wadsworth Publishing Company. p. 442

A more recent source:

"Most physicians dismissed Rodale and Davis as "health nuts" or "faddists" whose ideas were not worth the paper they were written on and regarded popular interest in switchel-drinking as yet more proof that the American people were too ignorant to be trusted with important medical decisions."

Nancy Tomes. (2016). Remaking the American Patient: How Madison Avenue and Modern Medicine Turned Patients into Consumers. University of North Carolina Press. p. 161

Doing a bit more research on this. Jarvis was basically a full quack. He was peddling the false idea that apple cider vinegar and honey could completely cure arthritis, a dangerous idea that was offering false-hope. I have seen evidence to suggest apple cider vinegar and honey can help with fatigue and energy levels but the idea it can cure arthritis is a joke. Complete nonsense. Skeptic from Britain (talk) 06:40, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Refutation of claims of Junk Science through the use of numerous citations exhibiting extensive traditional and medicinal usefulness of acetic acid (aka, vinegar)...

"Among the causes of septic arthritis, fungal arthritis occurs infrequently and is most commonly caused by Candida species" -- Candida Arthritis: Analysis of 112 Pediatric and Adult Cases ^[1] ^[2] --Vinyasi (talk) 18:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC) -- Vinyasi (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"High acetic acid levels are commonly associated with arrested fermentations or with utilization as vinegar in the food industry." -- Regulation of Cell Death Induced by Acetic Acid in Yeasts -- Vinyasi (talk) 18:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Acetate Induces Growth Arrest in Colon Cancer Cells Through Modulation of Mitochondrial Function -- Vinyasi (talk) 20:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding the topic of Vinegar (Acetic Acid) to include Sodium ions...

Chemistry of Combining Baking Soda with Vinegar

When baking soda and vinegar are combined, the bicarbonate ion of the baking soda reacts with acetic acid to form carbonic acid, which decomposes into carbon dioxide and water, completing the carbon cycle. Sodium acetate remains in solution with the water contained in the vinegar.^[3] -- Vinegar | Reactions, byproducts and contaminants

Sodium and Acetate Ions in the Food Industry

Sodium and acetate ions possess an extensive use in the food industry whether as the pure sodium acetate compound or derived from the combined use of both baking soda and vinegar in traditional recipes calling for these two ingredients.

Sodium acetate | Food

Wacky cake

Honeycomb toffee

Yellowman (candy)

Baking Soda and Apple Cider Vinegar Recipe

Sodium and Acetate Ions for non-Culinary Use

"Sodium Acetate Injection, USP (4 mEq per mL) is a sterile, nonpyrogenic, concentrated solution of sodium acetate in water for injection. The solution is administered after dilution by the intravenous route as an electrolyte replenisher." -- DailyMed -- Vinyasi (talk) 20:34, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hair washing without commercial shampoo

"As given off in chemical reactions, e.g., baking soda + vinegar" -- Bubble (physics) | Common examples

Students recreate an artificial volcano using baking soda, vinegar and red food coloring. -- Wiki Science Competition, 2023, Italy -- Vinyasi (talk) 21:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hansen BL, Andersen K. Fungal arthritis. A review. Scand J Rheumatol 1995; 24:248–50. PubMed and Google Scholar
^ Bariteau JT, Waryasz GR, McDonnell M et al.. Fungal osteomyelitis and septic arthritis. J Am Acad Orthop Surg 2014; 22:390–401. PubMed and Google Scholar
^ "Kitchen Chemistry: The Chemical Reaction Powered Car". engineering.oregonstate.edu. Archived from the original on 23 December 2019. Retrieved 23 December 2019.

[1] Hansen BL, Andersen K. Fungal arthritis. A review. Scand J Rheumatol 1995; 24:248–50. PubMed and Google Scholar

[2] Bariteau JT, Waryasz GR, McDonnell M et al.. Fungal osteomyelitis and septic arthritis. J Am Acad Orthop Surg 2014; 22:390–401. PubMed and Google Scholar

[3] "Kitchen Chemistry: The Chemical Reaction Powered Car". engineering.oregonstate.edu. Archived from the original on 23 December 2019. Retrieved 23 December 2019.

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