Talk:Dónde Están los Ladrones?/GA1

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Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 07:12, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Resolved comments from Tbhotch

;General

[1] 1 ambiguous link, 1 self-redirect
I didn't expected this (because it was nominated recently), but it has [2] 2 uncategorized redirects, 1 suspicious link, and 2 dead links. The 3 registration (access issue) sources are Newsbank.com and RIAA's, no problem with them.

Lead

"¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?" (and elsewhere). -> Although it is grammatically correct, the lack of "¿" is deliverated (as marked by sources).
Where Are the Thieves? -> No reason to bold it.
You can expand the lead a bit more, as currently it is not focusing on background, development and composition

Background and development

proéminence is French, prominence is English.
"...totally on this project". -> Citations always go after quotes. This applies elsewhere.

Title and artwork

"At the El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá after finishing" -> "At the El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá, after finishing"
saying, "From -> saying, "[f]rom
according to one biographer -> {{who?}}

Composition

"cannot take so long..." -> Is the ellipsis part of the original quote?
Dónde Están los Ladrones -> Dónde Están los Ladrones?
Mars and Venus -> Venus and Mars
Shakira confesses that she can not make coffee, does not understand soccer, and that she must have been unfaithful at some point and never wears watch. -> Almost the same phrase as in the source.
that refers to God coming to Earth after finishing his work and discovering everything to be in ruins, and decides to quit his job and become a normal man. -> Same as above.
The following track "Tú" lyrically -> The following track, "Tú", lyrically
podre -> podré
en París condenando -> en París, condenando
las portada -> las portadas
by Paris condemning -> by Paris, condemning
Link cocktails to Cocktail party.
Beiruit -> Beirut
she has never found "eyes like yours". -> this is phrased like the source.
File:Ojos Asi (Shakira song - sample).ogg doesn't have fair use rationale to be in this page.

Critical reception

Bob Dylan and Beck -> links
but also noted that [12 words later...] but listeners for whom
trademark sound - rock-laced pop melodies backed by acoustic guitars - as well as -> MOS:DASH
FM pop – and the fact -> same as above

Accolades

Lo Nuestro Award for Pop Album of the Year -> Lo Nuestro Award for Pop Album of the Year

Singles

7 September 1998 is unsourced
in November 1998 as well
by Gustavo Garzón -> by Garzón (twice)
Shakira is seen singing the song -> passive voice doesn't work here
in February 1999 is unsourced
"two and three on the US Latin Pop Songs" ... "reaching numbers 2 and 9 on the US Latin Pop Songs" -> choose one
"Ojos Así" was released as the album's final single in July 1999. -> unsourced, plus, it is inconsistent with ""Moscas en la Casa" was released as the sixth single"
"Due to an absense of a music video, the song reached lower positions on music charts" (10 and 25) -> Ojos así reached 9 and 22 with a music video, so where did you get that conclusion?

Promotion

Con T De Tarde -> Con T de Tarde
Shakira embarked on the Tour Anfibio which began on 17 March 2000 in Panama City, Panama -> I know Wikipedia is not reliable but Tour Anfibio says it started on Lima 4 days later. This kind of confirms it.

However, a biography of Shakira says it began in Panama in said date.

English version

Gloria Estefan is already linked
whose husband Emilio Estefan was managing Shakira at that time -> which time? Anyway, this has been already mentioned before.
so Estefan offered to translate -> Gloria? (This is why that line is irrelevant here).

Track listing

"All lyrics written by Shakira Mebarak." reduces you a column.
"Estoy Aquí" is overlinked

References and notes

The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan for a reference of how it should be done.

References

7:¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? -> Dónde Están los Ladrones? (per source)
9: A.M.Rothman -> Rothman, A.M.
12: WP:ALLCAPS
13: Link Billboard
26: |format=PDF
46: link Cámara Uruguaya del Disco; Premios doesn't have an accent
50: WP:ALLCAPS
51: WP:ALLCAPS
63: WP:ALLCAPS and |format=PDF
65: has a format error
77: Page 75 -> 74

"If you leave me for that witch, bitch, don't ever come back" -> Basically, Shakira is calling her that in the song, and although it rhythms, translating pedazo de cuero to bitch is not a translation but an adaptation. I know a transliteration is worse ("piece of leather") but, according to the Real Academia Española, it colloquially means in Colombia a "Mujer avejentada y fea (an aged and ugly woman)"[3]

Still the same, that's not a translation, that's an interpretation and requires a source. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"A cartoonish and decapited head of a living person, over other possible choices, is appropriate for this article because _____".

I'll be more clear. I wan't referring to the alt text but to the image itself. Why are you using a decapited parody of Hillary Clinton when we have dozens of other possible uses? © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 06:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced. I didn't notice it was Hillary, I wouldn't ever use it if I did lol

"whilst" -> are you using British English?

There is another one.

"sixth single from ¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?"

Sorry, I didn't understand it

"Estoy Aquí" is overlinked

"9. "=¿Dónde Están los Ladrones?""
The sigle release dates still unsourced (in either infobox or body).

@Tbhotch:, I think I have addressed all the issues concerning the article. Thanks. Alex ^talk 23:58, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbhotch: done Alex ^talk 07:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@11JORN: OK then. Good work. Also, consider archiving links to avoid dead ones. © Tbhotch^™ (en-2.5). 07:27, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]