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History

The relationship of this team with Netherlands Antilles national football team is not fully clear... If you know more, please discuss at talk:Netherlands Antilles national football team#history. Thanks L.tak (talk) 03:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Turning this into a redirect

From what I can tell, the Netherlands Antilles national football team is the successor side of the Curacao team so I've made this a redirect Stu.W UK (talk) 23:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose that Territory of Curaçao national football team and Netherlands Antilles national football team should be merged into this article. Most pressingly, they are treated as a continuous entity by FIFA (see country results page and use custom date feature to compare pre and post 1947 and pre and post October 2010): the calculation of Curaçao's FIFA ranking is largely dependent on results of Netherlands Antilles up to 2010. There have been changes to the territory under the auspices of the relevant association, and the relationship of the countries involved to their sovereign entity, but this is, in terms of the football team, change within a continuum, not creation of a new concept. Kevin McE (talk) 09:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, I think that all three should have a separate article, as they were all different political and geophysical entities. In the case of the Netherlands Antilles, the country also included several islands, which are not included in either the Dutch territory of Curaçao, or the current country Curaçao. Netherlands Antilles included Sint Maarten, Saba, Bonaire and Sint Eustatius, and even at one point Aruba, which are not a part of Curaçao. Similar to how the Yugoslavia national football team is not merged with Serbia, I don't think the Netherlands Antilles should be merged with Curaçao. Especially seeing how Aruba and Sint Maarten have their own national teams now, while Saba, Sint Eustatius and Bonaire are still foreign territories of the Netherlands. Subzzee (talk) 18:51, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The borders of the Federal Republic of Germany have changed many times since 1908, but that national team is still one article; two countries have been carved out of what was Ethiopia's territory, but we don't have different articles for the Ethiopia inclusive of Djibouti and Eritrea. Wikipedia is inconsistent: successor teams of Yugoslavia, as you note, and USSR have not been merged, we need too decide which side of that inconsistency we fall on with this case. Aruba and Sint Maarten do not have FIFA recognised national teams: is there any evidence of whether FIFA have considered players from those islands (or the other former Antillean constituent islands) eligible, or ineligible, for the team that is called Curacao (but not necessarily restricted to Curacao)? For me, FIFA's decision forces ours towards merger. Kevin McE (talk) 19:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aruba does have a FIFA recognized national team, and the national team of Sint Maarten is recognized by CONCACAF but is not yet a member of FIFA. The only islands that whose national teams are not recognized by either FIFA or CONCACAF are Saba, Sint Eustatius and Bonaire, and those players are not eligible to play for Curaçao as they were for the Netherlands Antilles. There are former Netherlands Antilles national team players whose international careers were forced to an end because they were no longer eligible to play under the newly established governing bodies, and were not good enough to play for the Netherlands, which would be the only national team they can represent at this point. You also point out that Germany's government has shifted however the national team that represented the DDR in the World Cup, still has it's on Wikipedia article. This is not a case of shifting borders, but rather a country splitting into smaller countries, such as the former republic of Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia, both which have their former national teams maintaining their wikipedia articles. Curaçao have simply inherited the FIFA record of the Netherlands Antilles, similar to how Serbia has that of Yugoslavia. Aruba have had their own FIFA record since their independence in 1986. I feel like the three articles should remain as they are, but should receive more coverage as I fell some of the articles are very brief and short, and more information could be included. Subzzee (talk) 21:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with a merger. Although the FIFA sees it as a successor the territory and entity is not the same. A Sovjet, CIS, Russia construction (also successors) with separate article's would be my choice. Agora (talk) 09:44, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Country vs territory

Part of the note in top: For the (Territory of) Curaçao national football team (prior to 1958), see Territory of Curaçao national football team.
However, the infobox gives the territory games for "First international" (also has 2011 game), "Biggest win", "Biggest defeat" and "CONCACAF Championship & Gold Cup" scores. If there is a separate article then the old ones should go there, and put here the scores from 2011 onward. 85.217.44.90 (talk) 06:50, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Citations needed to the main page. Thank you. Papiamento Momo (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is completely unorthodox to do, as the name "Territory of Curaçao" national football team is WP:OR. The team was never referred to that even if that was the official name of the dependency; it was simply Curaçao or the Curaçao national football team. In these instances, especially considering the successor has carried its FIFA affiliation, the former should get a article such as "Curaçao national football team (1921–1958)". Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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