Talk:Old Cumnock railway station

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On 14 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Cumnock (original) railway station to Old Cumnock railway station. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 14 April 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. I will move the second to Cumnock railway station, Ayrshire (1872–1951) per Necrothesp's arguments, but further discussion of this name may be appropriate. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 01:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– I've been tidying up disambiguation for former railway stations in Scotland per WP:UKSTATIONDAB and I'm not 100% sure what the best solution is for these two stations. The first was a Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway station opened as Old Cumnock in 1850, renamed to Cumnock in 1955 and closed in 1965. The second was a Glasgow and South Western Railway station that was only ever known as Cumnock, opened in 1872 and closed in 1951. I feel the natural disambiguation (using Old Cumnock and Cumnock) works best as there was only a brief period where the first station was known as Cumnock and they had different names when they were both in operation. The other options for disambiguation don't really work either as they are both in the same town and they were both run by the same company as the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway became the Glasgow and South Western Railway shortly after the first station opened. The current naming pattern doesn't work with the policy so they will have to move, I don't know what the disambiguation for the second station should be though as their is also a Cumnock railway station in Australia and Cumnock railway station needs to be a dab page. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 23:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think WP:PLACE applies here? Adding a disambiguation tag for the second Cumnock station might work. The Australian station already has the disambiguation tag of New South Wales, so the second Cumnock station would have a disambiguation tag of East Ayrshire, per WP:SCOTLANDPLACE. To be clear, I'm supporting the move to:
- Cumnock (original) railway station → Old Cumnock railway station
- Cumnock (second) railway station → Cumnock railway station, East Ayrshire

And the Australian Cumnock and the dab page will stay the same. Liu1126 (talk) 14:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. No need. Status quo makes clear DAB. Cfls (talk) 21:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was an RfC in 2017 which resulted in the depreciation of mid-phrase disambiguation (which is basically my reasoning for opening this RM). It may be clear but it is not consensus. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 10:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Old Cumnock railway station and Cumnock railway station, Ayrshire (1872–1951) for clarity. Note that it was never in East Ayrshire, which was only created in 1996. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.