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This article mainly discusses the founding of the Cumberland Presbyterians, but gives no clue as to the nature of its dispute with the main body of the Presbyterians.... Alba 19:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although this article could be greatly expanded, the primary reasons for the division from the PC USA is in the first paragraph.

Ridiculously long list of Noteable Cumberland Presbyterians

Even as a proud member of the CPC, I wouldn't list almost every member in the denomination's history as notable! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.127.54.175 (talk) 06:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Theologically moderate-to-conservative?

Weren't Cumberlands theologically liberal among Presbyterians, the "whosover will" doctrine was Cumberlands were among the first to ordain women. What do the labels "theologically moderate-to-conservative mean? Could a socially tolerant church be called "conservative"? [Unsigned comment]

Because most conservatives (Edmund Burke, John Adams.....) have historically been socially tolerant. I think you are confusing the word "conservative" with the word "bigot" and most bigoted organizations have historically been very "Progressive" in the political sense (i.e. supporting a interventist government controlling X,Y,Z). The K.K.K. is an obvious example, you may have been taught that the KKK (and so on) were or are "conservative", but they are anything but conservative. They have a record of denouncing "big business" and demanding government do X,Y,Z, going back to their most early days.

For an obvious example of a conservative institution - Hillsdale College springs to mind, which refuses government funds (unlike almost all modern universities). Look up Hillsdale's record or women and black people over time. Hillsdale was founded by Free Will Babtists not Cumberland Presbyterians - but Cumberland Presbyterians (then and now) would be able to understand "where it is comming from" philosophically.2.26.91.150 (talk) 12:56, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of notables and timeline

We need to create pages for the list of notables. Perhaps with a time line- who did what when. Come on Browns- you've got the history stored everywhere- let's get it up on Wikipedia! I'd like to see more information on trying to unite the African American and White Churches- since Paul F. Brown spoke of that so much- and an important part of the church history. Where's all the information on missions? Anyone still have pictures of Columbia? Maybe a pictorial time line would work? Rsteed869 (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)--Rsteed869 (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PAS, its not as easy as the writer of the comments thinks, the biggest problem is the Presbytery's are allowing very conservative candidates into the program at which they are at odds with what is taught. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.137.133 (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Program of Alternative Studies

This is a great program which has helped those who have been called later in life the ability to serve a church. It's not as easy as most may think, usually it's at least a three year program with 12 hours of class room with a professor per class. There are thirty three or so classes required plus a college degree. One of the issues the church faces and which effects the PAS program is the Presbytery's sending candidates that are way more conservative in their theology than the confession of faith. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.137.133 (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]