Talk:Ctenophorus pictus

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1. Olsson, M., Healey, M., Astheimer, L. 2007. Afternoon T: Testosterone level is higher in red than yellow male polychromatic lizards. Physiology & Behavior 91(5): 531-534. [1]

Reference: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17521685

2. Olsson, M., Schwartz, T., Uller, T., Healey, M. 2009. Effects of sperm storage and male colour on probability of paternity in a polychromatic lizard. Animal Behaviour. 77 (2): 419–424 [2]

Reference: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347208005149

3. Austin, J.J., Rose, R.J., Melville, J. 2006. Polymorphic microsatellite markers in the painted dragon lizard, Ctenophorus pictus. Molecular Ecology Notes. 6 (1): 194–196. [3]

Reference: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-8286.2005.01190.x/abstract

4. Healey, M., Uller, T., Olsson, M. 2007. Seeing red: morph-specific contest success and survival rates in a colour-polymorphic agamid lizard. Animal Behaviour. 74 (2): 337–341. [4]

Reference: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207001558 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biol3010 evo bsp (talk • contribs) 14:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on Colour polymorphism section

Your addition is really good! I liked how you tied various differences between morphs to the concepts we've learnt in class, such as sexual selection. However, some of the sentences could be combined in order to be less wordy. I've only made some minor grammatical changes in the article.Biol&steel (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HI! I made some minor grammatical edits to "color polymorphism". I think this section does a great job of tying in evolutionary causes for current behavioral traits and the reason that color polymorphs stay in the population. I would suggest trying to make the article flow a little easier -- it is easy to get lost. Try to keep the information about red variants altogether and the information about yellow variants altogether. That way we can compare and contrast easier. It is a little confusing to read at first. Other than that, good work! BabyPug49 (talk) 10/25/2015

Response to comments: I tried to clarify some of the jargon and tried to rearrange the information to keep the information about the yellow and red variants separate. I also reworded some of the sentences so that it is in simpler language.

I also included more information about how the two morphs are present in different populations, based on natural selection. In addition, I talked about how sexual selection and natural selection both play a role in having both variants present in populations.Biol3010 evo bsp (talk) 16:00, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I really liked your article and thought it covered all the necessary information to understand how color polymorphism works in this species. I did combine a couple of paragraphs that I felt connected together and did not need to be separated, but you can review that and decide if you want to keep that edit. There was one sentence that I was a little confused by: “Some environments are better suited for the survival of yellow variants; in others, red variants have higher fitness.” – I would suggest explaining more in detail with what you mean by this. How exactly do red and yellow variants get affected by the environment? Or maybe it was already in the article and you just need to make that connection. I did not see any problems with grammar, sentence structure, or wordiness. Aa3z4 (talk) 16:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I think your addition to this article was very informative. The information regarding differences between red and yellow males, such as how red males are sexually selected for but yellow males have a higher energetic efficiency, was fascinating and really explained why the separate color polymorphisms still exist rather than one morph dominating entirely. Furthermore, the reference to different environments being better suited to different morphs was great- being an essential evolutionary biology theme. I made several edits to improve cohesiveness. Firstly, I noticed that some words were spelled using American English while others were written in British English (ex: "color" vs. "colour"). For the sake of consistency, I changed all such deviations all to the American English vernacular form. My primary edits were removing redundancy and rewording awkward sentences. I tried to remove all references to the articles themselves, such as "it has been found that..." and keep the text relevant to the information itself. In addition, I condensed sentences that gave related information by using adjectives instead (ex: "Females have largely been shown to prefer red males. However, yellow males have high survival rates since they use energy for sustenance and survival, rather than impressing females. This shows that natural selection has a large role in maintaining variation, even more so than gene flow." instead became "While sexual selection generally favors red males, natural selection maintains variation by selecting for the more energetically-efficient yellow males." I would suggest keeping your language simple and using complex sentences rather than consecutive short sentences to improve clarity. Great work! NeverStopEvolving (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Final Changes: In my previous draft, a lot of my citations got lost in copying over the information. Thus, a lot of my additions to the article are the proper citations. I also made sure that when I presented the information from the studies, it was a summary rather than a reference to a specific study. I also combined some sentences and paragraphs so that similar information is grouped together. I did this to increase the flow within the article. I tried to cut down on some jargon as well, so that it is easier for the lay person to understand. I also expanded on a few sentences that my peers recommend I clarify, since it was unclear to an "outsider" reading the article. Overall, I tried to cut out unnecessary information so that the article flows and it is easy for anyone to understand.

Use Australian English spelling

Please note that this article was first created using Australian English, and this is the preferred form per MOS:ENGVAR and MOS:TIES. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]