Talk:Ctenizidae

"Medium-sized"?

Calling a spider "medium-sized" really gives the reader no information about how big it is. A range of actual measurements would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.106.12.131 (talk) 06:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. That description is too vague. Tagged it for clarification – Down time (talk) 19:12, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Trapdoor and funnel-web spider differences

Pls, what's difference between funnel web and trapdoor spiders? Any tip, how to easy differentiate them? Thanks --Goliathus 09:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the funnel web spider has a funnel shaped web, the trap door spider lives in a little hole and when its pray comes up it jumpes out of its little hole and grabs it. In looks they are very much the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.88.228.187 (talk) 23:58, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do they mate?

There is nothing in this article that describes their mating proccess. They lay their eggs in their burrow, yeah, but do they mate as usual, do they kill their mate after mating, and stuff like that? Does anyone know anything about their mating habits? It'd be better to add something like "The mating habits aren't well known do to the mysteriousness of the trapdoor spider, but we do know they lay their eggs in their burrows for protection." or something along those lines.

As to the above, funnel-web spiders.... sound like they use a web. The trapdoor spider uses a burrow instead of the traditional web, right? So maybe that's the difference. I'm not sure, I haven't read much on the funnel-webbers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.118.121.189 (talk) 19:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Some important facts

The differences between funnel web spiders and trapdoor spiders are fairly apparent; Funnel web spiders are generally larger and have several visual qualities (which I cannot list off the top of my head) which separate them. Trapdoor spiders have rastellum for digging, and Funnel web spiders extend their burrows further with webbing. Although the venom of both are relatively toxic, the Sydney Funnel Web Spider (Atrax Robustus) has been known to be the most dangerous in the world, thus separating the difference between potentially deadly and "medically significant."

Mating is done similarly amongst true spiders; the male climbs under the female and inserts his two pedipalps into the female's opithosoma to injects sperm (Yes, with the pedipalps. This is a defining visual characteristic amongst mature male spiders.) Afterwards, the male may or may not die depending on how hungry the female is(the copulation is generally a very, very vulnerable position on the male's end).

The main picture for this article is NOT a Trapdoor Spider! That is a species of Burrowing Wolf Spider (Lycosidae; Lycosa ssp.)... I will upload my own photo of an African Red Trapdoor Spider (Gorgyrells sp.) that I once had in captivity.

Colbert

Just a warning - in the next couple of weeks, a new species of trapdoor spider is going to be named after Stephen Colbert, and announced on his show. Expect the usual effect. Rissa (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Appearances in Media

This section seemed a little extensive, and ever so slightly creepy, to me, clearly written by a fan of the film Eight Legged Freaks. Maybe pare it down enough to not seem so indulgent and reminiscent of Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TJKeep (talk • contribs) 22:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Generic name

There are several families that are referred to as "trapdoor spiders". Is there a reason that this family in particular is the one that "trapdoor spider" directs to? Because there are so many, I feel like it would make more sense to move this article to the proper family name and have "trapdoor spider" redirect to the disambig page or List of trapdoor spiders. Certainly I can't be the first one who has noticed this? Sesame honey tart 06:59, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sesamehoneytart: I agree. I will move the article. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:58, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move done and links to "Trapdoor spider" fixed.

I've also redirected Trapdoor spider to List of trapdoor spiders, as suggested above. The English name "trapdoor spider" is just too ambiguous, especially since the family Euctenizidae was split off from the Ctenizidae, to redirect to a single article. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic information

In this edit, I removed a section titled "Ecology and behaviour". The problem is that this was written based on sources when Ctenizidae was a large family – compare List of Ctenizidae species as of 23 December 2016 with the now accepted five species. So it's unlikely that all the material applies to the current much reduced family. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]