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"Bastardization"

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The opening of this article identifies it as a "bastardization" of billiards. This was recently changed to "variant" which was reverted by BQZip01 with the edit summary indicating that it is "not a variant" and citing WP:NOTCENSORED. However I do not believe that edit had anything to do with censorship. Bastardization implies that it has been corrupted or otherwise *made worse* which is a value judgment. Variant on the other hand, is accurate and impartial. Rather than revert again I have rephrased to use neither terminology. 216.36.186.2 (talk) 20:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good compromise. I'll buy it. I think anyone who plays crud would agree though that Crud is indeed a corrupted form of billiards and has definitely been made "worse" that the gentlemanly game of billiards. I guess I misunderstood your argument in your summary. No hard feelings, right? :-) — BQZip01 — talk 03:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's also played in Norwegian fighter squadrons --90.196.110.92 (talk) 21:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I remember seeing this in a mid-1990s Pelit article on Air Warrior/Warbirds and associated matters. I should dig it up before someone else does. --Kizor 23:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

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Does anyone have any insights about finding proper citations and sources in general? Maybe someone with military connections or experience would know where crud would have been written about. I've found a few things using Google Books... Drpenguino (talk) 23:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sub-headings below Rules could use citations and could be simplified Drpenguino (talk) 00:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen commercially printed rules for crud in the same format as 8-Ball and Snooker framed and posted on mess walls, so they do exist beyond just locally-produced rule-sets. Loopy30 (talk) 01:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]