Talk:Cruciate ligament

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A fact from Cruciate ligament appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 October 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that successful repair of both cruciate ligaments in a human knee was first reported in 1903?

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Expansion, September 2009

[Copied from Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Cruciate ligament. --Una Smith (talk) 03:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)][reply]

Cruciate ligament ought not be a disambig. All meanings are for ligaments in the knee; many disambig links are unfixable because even the news reports do not specify which of an athlete's cruciate ligaments was thought to be injured (and some articles specify that a person had an injury to the "cruciate ligaments" of a particular knee. bd2412 T 22:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could go either way: make it a straight dab, or make it an article that explains why they are "cruciate" (it has nothing to do with torture; they cross). Pass it by WP:MED? --Una Smith (talk) 22:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that they are unfixable (which they are) is no reason to make the the page not a dab. The only solution that I see is merging Anterior cruciate ligament & ~~Medial collateral ligament~~ Posterior cruciate ligament but the folks that edit the anatomy pages may not agree that they should be merged. J04n(talk page) 23:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the dab'ed articles themselves, the one that is frequently getting injured is the anterior, but many news reports on injured athletes maddeningly omit that specification. If we could find some source supporting this contention, we could default all these injury reports in articles on athletes to the anterior article. On the other hand, what is it that is really being disambiguated here? It's not as though there's movie titled The Cruciate Ligament, or a band, or a car. If someone asked you what a cruciate ligament was, and you answered that it's a ligament found in the knee, you'd be right every time. I compare this to toe. We have one article on toes in general, and another on the big toe with its special role. bd2412 T 23:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

bd, I'm not sure what you are suggesting by that last comment; merging Anterior cruciate ligament & Posterior cruciate ligament or creating a third page for cruciate ligament (knee) (or some other name)? A better example for your point is Meniscus (anatomy), as there are also pages for Medial meniscus and Lateral meniscus. J04n(talk page) 00:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a different primary topic for meniscus; there is none for cruciate ligament. I propose that the entry be a short article on the general topic (i.e. everything that can be said about every cruciate ligament, no matter the animal and position), while maintaining the more specific articles on the individual ligaments. bd2412 T 01:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I agree. J04n(talk page) 01:18, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. bd2412 T 01:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did You Know?

This article is now expanded more than 5x, so can qualify for Did You Know. All we need is a catchy hook. Ideas? --Una Smith (talk) 05:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated: Template talk:Did you know#Cruciate ligament. --Una Smith (talk) 02:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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