Talk:Cross and flame

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Logo scares blacks?

The logo looks like somebody's trying to set a cross on fire. Who designed the logo? David Duke's interior decorator? Supposedly, the Methodists are trying to integrate; but there are still seperate churches for blacks and whites. Subtle warnings like the logo may be one of the reasons. If you don't believe me, show a black person the logo and ask them what's the first thing that pops in to their mind. 76.105.3.220 09:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it is a reference to "tongues of fire" descending during Pentecost (Acts 2:3). --TeaDrinker (talk) 08:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is in reference to "tongues of fire" descending at Pentecost, an event that pre-dates burning crosses by some 1800 years. Furthermore, there is no "white" Methodist Church. The United Methodist Church is open to persons of all races. Additionally, the AME, AME-Zion, and CME denominations are historically black, but also open to persons of all races. User:Anonymous 15:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.121.14.12 (talk) [reply]

Other symbols incorporating a cross and flame

There are at least two other symbols (both Lutheran) which incorporate a cross and flame. The ELCA symbol from the mid-1980s to mid-1990s [1] and the current Lutheran Church of Australia symbol use a cross and flame design. Should these be incorporated in the article? --TeaDrinker (talk) 08:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References no longer exist

The only two references in this article either don't exist or link to something that doesn't match the content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizrileymga (talk • contribs) 02:45, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]