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Cronus as "Harvest Deity"

I think that this is wrong. As I mentioned, it was only the Athenian tradition within the Greek Pantheon that largely even worshipped Cronus as a harvest deity; his established role recognized in literature was the leader of the Titans in the Greek pantheon.

To further the reasoning behind this point, I once again point to the hypothetical example of Cronus being referred to as a "time deity" because of the cult of Orphic religion. I mean, you can't just call Cronus a "time deity" because of the actions of a single Hellenic cult through the context of their writings in the Orphic theogonies and Hymns.

Likewise, I just don't think it's possible to describe Cronus as a "harvest deity" in the context of the entire Greek Pantheon, simply because of the traditions of a single Hellenistic city state.

In conclusion, I believe that the introduction to this entire article needs to be rewritten in order to accommodate a nuanced overview of the worship of both of these examples of both local cults and traditions, while mentioning that Cronus was indeed worshipped as a harvest deity in Athens and parts of Ionia, while at the same time mentioning that he was also worshipped as a time deity in the Orphic cult.

This also plays into the broader problem of how Cronus' entire status as a time deity and the nuance surrounding it is presented as nothing but a "mistake" in post-classical antiquity throughout the start of this article without being explained, which I think feels slightly dubious.

However, even if this article's introduction is not re-written (for some reason) it is clearly inaccurate to state that the entire Greek Pantheon worshipped Cronus as a "harvest deity" through the use of such a heading in the introduction for this article.

For the time being, for all of these reasons, I am going to suggest to remove the heading referring to Cronus as a "harvest deity", as it is simply an inaccurate representation of his overall role in the Greek Pantheon.

Furthermore, I am going to suggest to change the heading "Member of the Titans" to "Leader of the Titans", to better reflect the main role that Cronus held throughout the Titanomachy and the greater Greek Pantheon.

I've messaged the user that reverted my edit a copy of this message. I certainly welcome any discussion or opinion helping to justify why this heading change would not be wise.

Ghost1824 (talk) 13:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it just got changed back (lol) Ghost1824 (talk) 13:15, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ghost1824: Thanks for opening this discussion. (I really should have done so my self). I agree with most of what you've written above. Will see what other editors have to say. I also think your suggestion to change the "heading" in the infobox to "Leader of the Titans" is an improvement. I've done this. (However the only easy way to accomplish this is using the unfortunately named "god_of" parm.) Paul August ☎ 13:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine for me too. Thanks! Gawaon (talk) 13:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]