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Social inequality??

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"Some consider social inequality to be a major contributing factor to levels of violence in Latin America,[1] where the state fails to prevent crime and organized crime takes over State control in areas where the State is unable to assist the society such as in impoverished communities." - This is absolute nonsense. In Eastern Europe, after the fall of the Iron Curtain, social "equality" was not even a concept and poverty was rampant. In the same country, some were super rich, driving Ferraris in the 1990s and others could not afford to buy enough bread until their next salary, if it came on time. Yet, there was nowhere near the level of organized crime that you see in Latin America, not even on the same order of magnitude. Admit it's a cultural problem and stop making up excuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.33.197.126 (talk) 10:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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Some sections were copied verbatim from the sources. Paraphrasing is needed, to avoid copyright infringement. Notice that second paragraph of "Possible causes" section was copied verbatim from: [1]. --the Dúnadan 04:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need this article? I mean why not create a "Crime in Europe" article, (yes it does exist) -A friend of mine was robbed in Germany during the world cup-, anyways all Latin American articles already talk about social issues, and some of them even have crime and law enforcement sections, so I’m thinking this article might be a little redundant. Supaman89 (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we need the article BUT
I think arguments like - "we don't need a Crime in Latin America article because there is no Crime in Europe article",
OR "if there is a Crime in Latin America article, there should be a Crime in Europe article", are not good arguments. Different situations are different.
More importantly, that type of argument implies there should be "standardization" across articles. Getting a consensus within one article is tough enough. Trying to get a consensus on standards to apply to all the country articles would lead to madness. Wanderer57 (talk) 18:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Such an article can exist, but this one well-deserves the "NPOV disputed" tag. The opening line is backed by a rather sensationalist article in some Canadian publication, and that seems to set the tone of the article as a whole. I don't think that you can make a neutral article without mention of the use of "security concerns" by certain political parties and ideologies in Latin America (even if it's just a smaller section that leads to another article). While crime may be a problem in various places and a challenge for society, its image is also abused by the media for certain reasons. Who is like God? (talk) 08:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do think there should be an article on this and I would rather go for an article on crime in each country.

I live in Europe, I come from Latin America and I often go to North America. I know crime specially in places like Venezuela, are much higher than those in Europe or the US/Canada and the situation is worsening by the day. We should add statistics and their sources. --Periergeia (talk) 08:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there is to be such an article, make it more than a jumble of unconnected quotes from various supposedly reputable sources, replete with relative adjectives, and devoid of comprehensive (overall) statistics from which a reader could get a grasp of the relative problems in Latin America. This reads more like a litany of sensationalist reporting. That leads to, for example, one paragraph telling the reader that... "The city that currently topped the list of the world's most violent cities is San Pedro Sula in Honduras, leading various media sources to label it the 'murder capital of the world'" but another telling us that..."In 2010, state officials reported 3,622 homicides in the city. With a rate of 272 murders per 100,000 residents, Ciudad Juarez [Mexico] alone had the highest murder rate in the world." The article should be withdrawn and, if it is to be re-posted, edited by someone with a grasp of objective reporting, not just cutting and pasting comments that cluster under Google search. 76.88.1.215 (talk) 00:31, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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