Talk:Rules of cribbage

"his nob" vs. "his nobs"

There have been a couple of edits changing "one for his nob" to "one for his nobs". I'm going to outline the reasons here why I will be changing them back:

• likely derivation: "one for his nob" refers to a physical attribute of the Jack (his head) and the number of them (one) directly mirroring "two for his heels"
• appeal to authority: the following authorities cite "one for his nob":
  • Hoyle, Edmond Hoyle (1994). "Cribbage". The Complete Hoyle's Games. Wordsworth Editions. p. 106. ISBN 1-85326-316-8. Where either includes a knave of the same suit as the start, one "for his nob" will be scored in addition. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Farmer, John S (1921). A Dictionary of Slang and Colloquial English. George Routledge and Sons. p. 309. One for his nob, (1) a blow on the head; (2) a point in cribbage for holding the knave of trumps: cf. Two for his heels. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
• weight of usage: Google lists about ten times as many pages matching "one for his nob" as "one for his nobs"

I'll leave one reference to the alternative usage. TimR (talk) 06:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that useful work ... :) Abtract (talk) 08:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Quite apart from rules and references; Noddy has TWO heels and only ONE nob [head]. comment added by Capt C (talk • contribs) 13:20, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced alternate usage (caveat lector!): a jack in the hand or crib which matches the turned card is "his nobs" and counts one; the jack which is turned is "his royal nobs," and counts two. 76.90.44.238 (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

double run, "3,4,5,6" (4 points) vs "3,4,5" + "4,5,6" (possible 6 points?)

Question: if you have a 3,4,5,6 do you score only 4 points for the run, or can you score 6 points for: 3,4,5 and then 4,5,6? Both are unique three-card runs even though the 4 and 5 are used twice. If this is not possible, anybody know the game mechanics reason why not? Is it simply that you are compelled to play it as a four-card run? unsigned 27 January 2009‎

In the play (that is the pegging) the first three cards count as a 3-card run and, when the fourth card is played (by the other player) a 4-card run is scored, and, if a fifth card was to be played (a 2 or 7), a 5-card run would be scored and so on up to 31. In the scoring of the hands, only the maximum can be scored (in this case a 4-card run = 4 points) the reason is ... them's the rules. Abtract (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

For that matter, there’s a similar inconsistency in the pegging rules: A sequence like 6-7-6-8 scores three for a run, but can’t claim eight for the double run. Yet in 8-8-8, the third 8 scores six for a pair royal instead of just two for pairing the most recent card. Apparently the combinatorics work for pairs but not for multiple-run combinations. But as you say, them’s the rules. Dodiad (talk) 02:32, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Two for his Heels

According to the paragraph "The Starter", "two for his heels" is 'also known as "his nibs" or "his nobs".' Really? I thought "His Nob" and "His Heels" were two separate things. Rojomoke (talk) 23:45, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

It would be good to get this clarified and corrected. Gregorytopov (talk) 13:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Who goes first, when no-one says "go"?

For instance, when the preceding run produced an exact sum to 31. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.6.33 (talk) 09:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

In a two-person game, it's the player who hasn't just pegged for the 31. In a game with more players, it's the player to the left of the one who made the 31 (as shown in the three-person example under "Example plays"). Deor (talk) 10:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Why are only some entries getting the "Citation needed" tag?

Why are only some entries getting the "Citation needed" tag here? I see that my addition of "Auction Cribbage" got the "Citation Tag" - well, my source for this information is the Penguin Book of Card Games. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:23, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I tagged the "Auction Cribbage" variant as needing citation. Thanks for having a source. I don't have that book and I couldn't find it online, so I can't verify it. If you can add the reference (page number is ideal) then that's fantastic. Cheers! --Ds13 (talk) 20:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

False deal

A false deal of 7 cards what is the rule 2A00:23C4:5C87:CE00:5DCC:F7:C5A2:8811 (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Difference between British & American rules

How do British rules differ from American Cribbage Congress rules? Nurg (talk) 09:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

"the run" or "a run" of seven

seven points for completing the run of seven – Shouldn't that be a run of seven? There are more Google finds on "the", but I suspect at least the bulk of these are copied from Wikipedia. "The" run suggests there is only one, presumably from A to 7. I don't play cribbage and am reading this article to learn the rules, so there may well be something I'm not aware of in this regard. Bret Sterling (talk) 04:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

An A–7 run is the only run that could possibly occur during the play, as any other would total more than 31 (2–8 would add up to 35, for instance). Obviously, a run of seven is extremely unlikely in actual play. Deor (talk) 12:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

From the perspective of English grammar, there is only a tiny difference in this sentence between a and the. With common noun phrases, a is usually used when introducing an object for the first time, and the is usually used when the object is already known to the speaker and the listener. The fact that there is only one set of ranks that can make up a seven-card run is irrelevant. Adding in different suits and different orders that the cards can be played in, there are many different seven-card runs. It should be changed to a to be parallel to the preceding bullet points. Indefatigable (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh, what the heck.  Done. Deor (talk) 18:05, 16 October 2023 (UTC)