Talk:Cresap's War/Archive 1

Archive 1

Question about dates

"Cresap later fought in Dunmore's War." Follow the links to Dunmore's War and Captain Michael Cresap, who is said in that article to have been born in 1742. But Cresap's War ended in 1737. Maybe the article on Michael Cresap is wrong -- but since Dunmore's War was fought in 1774, probably it ain't the same guy.--Hippasus the Younger 04:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Answered my own question. Michael Cresap was Thomas Cresap's son.--Hippasus the Younger 16:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

The material now under the heading "Outbreak of hostilities" appears to be drawn from Pennsylvania sources and biased towards Pennsylvania's claims. Maryland sources present a very different description of the conflict.--Hippasus the Younger 19:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

...(sic)"This Man, I am well informed, is fond of publishing that he has taken care, that a representation of all affairs in that Country Should be carried to His Majesty's Ministers. He was formerly in the Army and an Acquaintance of General Haldemand, with whom I know he has corrisponded on this occasion; and it is not therefore with better information than Mr. Penn's, though I cannot Suppose his motive as bad, that Mr. Haldemand has ventured to transmit to your Lordship intelligence, which with respect to Cressop, he owns he has not had from any proper Authority, and of which, I make no doubt, he will be ashamed, when he finds out that there is no Colonel Cressop except an old Man of Ninety years of age, and who is, and allways was, an Inhabitant of Maryland: And if the General means the Cressop whose name has been mentioned by me, in my relation of the Indian occurencies, he likewise is a Marylander, and never was an Inhabitant of Virginia"...Virginia's Gov Dunmore rebukes the 30 July 1774. Phila. John Penn to the Earl of Dartmouth Report. Conaughy 01:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I particularly like this deposition from the Pennsylvania Archives Series 1 Volume 1 pg 505 but it doesn't fit well in the article: "Arthur Buchanan, Samuel Scott, John Kelly & David Priest, being severally Interrogated what Provocation was given, & what Necessity there was to the Setting fire to Thomas Cresap's house, being Sworn on the Holy Evangelists of Almighty God, did severally depose & Declare, That they being called upon by Samuel Smith, Esquire, Sheriff of the County of Lancaster, on Tuesday, the twenty third day of November last, to Assist him, the said Sheriff, in Apprehending the said Thomas Cressap, who had a Warrant against the said Cresap, for Murder, they the said Deponents, with several others, went with the said Sherif to the house where the said Cresap & his Company were Lodged, the said House Consisting of round Rough Loggs laid one upon another, & the Door thereof strongly barr'd or bolted, And that after the said Sherif had read the said Warrant to the said Cresap for Apprehending him, & several times requir'd him to Surrender himself to Justice, the said Sheriff & these Deponents & Assistants were Answer'd by Cresap with Oaths & Imprecations, calling the said Sherif, these Deponents & Company, Damn'd Scotch Irish Sons of Bitches, and the Proprietor & people of Pensilvania Damn'd Quakeing Dogs & Rogues, Asking these Depont" & Company why they wou'd fight for a parcell of Damn'd Quakeing Sons of Bitches, but that they shou'd Do as he the said Cresap did, fight for a Gentleman, Which Words & Provokeing Language Used by the said Cresap to the said Deponents & Company from time to time during the whole Day, And it Appearing very plainly from the said Cresap's Actions & Expressions, that he thesaid Cresap & his Company were Resolv'd to kill rather than Surrender themselves or be taken, And these Deponents & Company Apprehending that if he the said Cresap made his Escape at that time, Great Numbers of the Inhabitants of those parts of the said County of Lancaster who had been threatened with the Extreamest Severities, cou'd scarce expect to be safe any longer in their Possessions. At length it was the Opinion of divers of the Company, that there was a necessity to Set fire to the Roof of the said Logg house, which was Low & within Reach, in order to Oblige the sd Cresap & his Company to Quit it, which, notwithstanding, the said Sherif refused by any means to agree to, but the said Cressap & his Company continuing to fire on the said Sherif & his Assistants, & the Necessity Appearing so great & pressing, to the End that they might take the sd Cressap & his Company without Blood, the Efusion of which they were desirous by all means to prevent, Some Fire brands were thrown on the Shed adjoining to the said House, which soon took the whole house, it being built only of dry Wood, & was in a Short time Destroyed, in the Manner as set forth in the foregoing Affidavits. " --Dwmill3 (talk) 00:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

"Triggering violence" Section

The first sentence of the "Triggering violence" section references that "John Wright and two associates with their families settled near the river and moved from C." What is "C" referencing? I'm thinking maybe "Columbia, Pennsylvania", which is contained in John Wright's page.

Jbelsky (talk) 23:12, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Casualties

The info box at the top says both sides suffered "heavy" casualties, but in the text of the article it looks like only a handful of people were hurt. Is there a source on anyone else injured?68.167.26.113 (talk) 12:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Cresap's War/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

A good, long start, but still weak in many areas. Many subtitles are still empty. Needs lot of work--(Wikipedian1234 (talk) 21:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

Last edited at 21:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 12:24, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Casualties, commanders, and leaders

I've removed the bit in the infobox that said "Casualties: Heavy" for both sides (originally added four years ago). I've also removed all the "Commanders and leaders" except Cresap, as the other names were just the governors of Maryland and Pennsylvania during the time of the "war," and were not necessarily involved at all. These names were added by the same person as the casualties. SSSheridan (talk) 20:44, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Pennsylvanian Dutch

Pennsylvanian Dutch were not Dutch as you aver but German from Pennsylvanian Germans from Pennsylvanian Deutch. ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmmarkkk (talk • contribs) 00:52, 27 May 2018 (UTC)