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POV Concerns
[edit]"After Deeds' victory, he embarked on a spree of legislative accomplishments."
This page is almost as bad as his opponent's. Wikipedia should not serve as promotional propaganda for individuals of any political candidacy or orientation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CurtisJasper (talk • contribs) 10:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- For one, the phrase "Spree of legislative accomplishments" does not once appear on the page. I corrected a piece on the HoD info from "legislative accomplishments" to "legislation" because the word 'accomplishment' can gave a vary strong implication. Wikipedia is not the place for that. Also, the tag really needs to be placed at the top, because (as far as I can tell) the political positions is the least biased part of the article. It presents statements in a straight forward manner with no noticeable bias. If there are not other objections, I think we can take out the PoV tag.Bigvinu (talk) 21:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
There are lots of politicians with 11 or more electoral races that don't have separate articles for those races - they have a single table in their main article. (A single table takes up much less space.) This article needs have the article Electoral history of Creigh Deeds merged into it, but not in the current form of multiple tables.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Agree. Ditto for Political positions of Creigh Deeds. Cool3 (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I moved the information in Political positions of Creigh Deeds to this article, and was reverted by another editor. I'm starting a new section on this. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I've probably edited hundreds of articles about U.S. politicians; this is the first time I've encountered a separate article about the politician's political positions other than for for U.S. Presidents and presidential candicates. I can see justification for a separate article when such positions are controversial and extensive. But here, not at all. A separate article is not justified by precedent (I welcome examples to the contrary) and seems to me to violate WP:NPOV - excessive space/weight. In addition, WP:NOT is relevant, I believe - Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, but rather an encyclopedia that strives to present overviews of topics.
I tried to merge Political positions of Creigh Deeds into this article, in this edit. As you can see, the resulting section fit well within this article in terms of size.
What do others think? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Support merge. There's absolutely no reason to fork an article that's currently about 10k, and this follows the general convention. Cool3 (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Support by far enough room to merge. Hekerui (talk) 14:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Where is the personal info?
[edit]I find it amazing that not much is mentioned of Creigh Deeds child life1 Where was he born? What schools did he go to1 We know the college because he has it listed! It's just alittle info I would lke to know! What is his father/mother like and Whis is his Wife's maiden name? All of this was already on Bob Mc Donnell's home page!!! It makes you feel more at hm knowing this information.
Elizabeth Harrell Sanchez (Native of Suffolk,VA) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.76.75 (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
BLP/BDP reverts
[edit]So the Highland Recorder reports that his son was the source of the stabbing. This is one of the most local sources and probably is a reliable source. But all of the other media outlets aren't making this connection yet and under the provisions of WP:BDP and WP:BLPCRIME we should not be leading most of the media in terms of reporting the perpetrator. The news conference in a few minutes may clear this up, but we should be very very very careful about the strength of our sources for things like this. Sailsbystars (talk) 16:49, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
- I requested semi-protection for this page. The request is still pending. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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suggested edit
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
- What I think should be changed: Under the Death Penalty section there should be a bullet point added: "*In 2021, Deeds voted to abolish the death penalty in Virginia"
- Why it should be changed: The current information on Senator Deeds' stance on the death penalty is outdated. This year, the Virginia General Assembly voted to abolish the death penalty. Senator Deeds voted for this change. The reference link shows the vote on this measure.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): [1]
David7925 (talk) 20:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- This change is reasonable and non controversial and is properly sourced. The change has been incorporated into the article. Go4thProsper (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
State Senate Accomplishments
[edit]This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. We don't list accomplishments and specific bills |
- What I think should be changed:
Under the heading Political Career and in the section State Senate, the following information should be added:
Senator Deeds has made mental health care reform a focus of his service in the Virginia Senate. He sponsored bills that passed into law including:
· SB 260 (2014) to increase the amount of time a mental health patient may be committed under an emergency custody order, prevent state mental health facilities from refusing to admit eligible patients, and establish a statewide acute psychiatric bed registry.[1]
· SB 1005 (2017) to direct community services boards to provide same-day access to mental health screenings, crisis services for individuals with mental health or substance use disorders, psychiatric rehabilitation services, peer and family support services, mental health services for members of the armed forces, care coordination services, and case management services. This program is commonly known as STEP-VA.[2]
· SB 670 (2018) to extend mental health awareness training to firefighters and EMS personnel.[3]
· SB 953 (2018) to incorporate information about the fundamentals of mental health into 9th and 10th grade health education.[4]
· SB 619 (2020) to direct school boards to provide mental health awareness training to teachers and other school officials.[5]
· SB 1273 (2021) to establish a permanent Behavioral Health Commission in the legislative branch. This Commission builds on the work of the Joint Subcommittee to Study Mental Health Services in the Commonwealth in the 21st Century, created by SJ 47, which first passed in 2014 and was introduced by Senator Deeds.[6]
- Why it should be changed:
The legislative accomplishments listed in the State Senate section are a small and random selection of the many bill Senator Deeds has passed. They are also outdated – the most recent is from 2008. Mental health reform has been one of Senator Deeds' top priorities and highlighting more recent accomplishments in this area is fitting for his Wikipedia page.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
David7925 (talk) 20:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=141&typ=bil&val=sb260
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=171&typ=bil&val=sb1005
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=181&typ=bil&val=sb670
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=181&typ=bil&val=sb953
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=201&typ=bil&val=sb619
- ^ https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?ses=212&typ=bil&val=sb1273
- Not done This edit is too detailed about his state Senate career. Wikipedia provides summaries of their notable accomplishments, as covered by secondary sources. This request is a list of bills he has sponsored that would require constant updating to ensure that we are not provided WP:OR about which aspects of his career Wikipedia is highlighting. Z1720 (talk) 20:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Updates needed
[edit]This article is badly outdated. The majority of the content is connected to Creigh Deeds' campaign for Governor of Virginia in 2009. It would be well served by an editor reconfiguring the article and removing vague or outdated information that may no longer be accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David7925 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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