Talk:Crawford Square

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This batch of homes is located exactly at the place where "St. Joe's House of Hospitality" stood. "St. Joe's" was a large building which gave lodgement to needy homeless white men. (There was a time when men and women lived in separate accommodations). It was razed around 1973. It had existed for at least 60 years. HeyYallYo 02:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you supply a reliable source for this information? If so, please do it and it can be included in the article.Aolivex (talk) 17:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"St. Joe's" lasted

Now about one-third of a mile (0.5 km) from its former location on Protectory Place, "St. Joe's" is at 1635 Bedford Avenue. Saint Joseph's House of Hospitality is busy, still.

www.ccpgh.org/Website/st_joseph.htm contains a photograph of 1635 Bedford Avenue (plus more links).

The land where "Crawford Square" is located never held a government-owned housing project. The Urban Redevelopment Authority paid handsomely to acquire some of it. The City of Pittsburgh probably owned some of the land, having seized it after people had failed to pay taxes. (People die and can no longer pay taxes).

The closest government-owned housing project was located about one mile (1.6 km) away. "Whiteside Road" was atop a hill and out of sight of the place where "Crawford Square" was built. The was no "dilapidated housing project" on or close to Protectory Place.

The new residents of "Crawford Square" are largely "Whites" and "Asians" who lead comfortable lives, make money, and own automobiles.

HeyYallYo 07:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested in this place

Look at the website above by typing http:// in front of the www.ccpgh.org/Website/st_joseph.htm and press "enter" on your keyboard. "St. Joe's" was perhaps the most significant thing that had existed in the area which is now called "Crawford Square."

HeyYallYo 14:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Racially diverse residents"

Crawford Square is an excellent example of an attempt at New Urbanist strategy in an inner city, and has been referenced in many scholarly reviews and papers as such. Accordingly, it should meet the notability requirement of Wikipedia. However, the current article contains much uncited and inaccurate information and desperately needs revision. The project's overall significance, the area's history (which is rich) and outcomes of the project are all topics that can be greatly improved. For instance, HeyYallYo's reference (above) to Crawford Square's residents as being ""Whites" and "Asians" who lead comfortable lives, make money, and own automobiles" is contradicted by 2000 Census accounts of the area, which reveals it to be 87% black with 38% falling in the lowest income bracket (<$10,000/year)^[1].

Please see articles below as examples of academic sources on Crawford Square:

1) U.S. Census Bureau, 2000 Census. ‘Census: Pittsburgh ; a comparative digest of census data for Pittsburgh neighborhoods.’ Retrieved from www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us (City of Pittsburgh website) http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/cp/assets/census/2000_census_pgh_jan06.pdf Chesapeakekate (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2) Deitrick, S., & Ellis, C. (2004). New Urbanism in the Inner City. Journal of the American Planning Association, 70(4), 426-442.

Chesapeakekate (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first link produces a 404. The corresponding note in the article goes to the City of Pittsburgh website, which is clearly inadequate. Request new URL to complete this section.Aolivex (talk) 19:37, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ U.S. Census Bureau, 2000 Census. ‘Census: Pittsburgh ; a comparative digest of census data for Pittsburgh neighborhoods.’ Retrieved from www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us (City of Pittsburgh website) http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/cp/assets/census/2000_census_pgh_jan06.pdf.

Recommendation: integrate historical material with Hill District article

This article is about a recent URA development. Much of the historical background information is about the evolution of the Hill District neighborhood(s), which seems only marginally relevent to the current context and interrupts the article's flow. Recommend integrated historical background information with the article on the Hill District and creating a redirect, if necessary. Please advise.Aolivex (talk) 17:58, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues

Crow's nest?

I've never heard the term "crow's nest" in anything except the context of something on the mast of a ship. I didn't see anything on the disambiguation page that the term linked to that made sense in the context of racial diversity; can anyone clear this up for me? Cln23 04:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] U.S. Census Bureau, 2000 Census. ‘Census: Pittsburgh ; a comparative digest of census data for Pittsburgh neighborhoods.’ Retrieved from www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us (City of Pittsburgh website) http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/cp/assets/census/2000_census_pgh_jan06.pdf.

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