Talk:Courtney Stodden
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Gender identity
[edit]The moment wikipedia began to embrace gender insanity instead of the facts, wikipedia became less of a reliable actual encyclopedia.
This is literally insane that people are being censored for editing this article to CORRECTLY refer to a woman as a woman because of her choice of a fashionable "label" instead of understanding that she is in fact a woman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.11.55.112 (talk) 22:17, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's literally insane? Not figuratively insane? How about metaphorically insane? :-)
- Stodden's status as a woman has not been "censored", nor has anything in the article. The issue I believe you're referring to is her gender identity, which has nothing to do with "fashion". Referring to subjects by aspects of gender identity that they have indicated is entirely reasonable, as it merely reflects common practices in society pertaining to non-binary individuals. Nightscream (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Per MOS:GENDERID, her personal pronoun of choice would appear to be the "singular they." The opinions of individual editors not withstanding. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Gender identity is not real. It is a mental illnes we as a society have embraced because a lot of mentally ill people were given degrees from colleges seeking to make a profit and a mark on society. Now the insane are running the asylum. This is why nobody takes academia, degrees or science even as serious as they should... Facts dont care about yoir feelings. Stop writing feelings as if they are reality. 173.72.147.13 (talk) 20:31, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I jumped on as was confused whether the article was referring to the individual or a couple. She uses She/Her, like all females do. This should be used for the sake of objective clarity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.148.81.130 (talk) 21:58, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- Stodden uses singular they pronouns, per this source, as indicated in the article. Nightscream (talk) 21:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- article says she uses "she/they". this makes no sense; they are both NOMINATIVE pronouns!
- even if she's mixing pronouns, it would be "she/them". and if she's using "she" for nominative in any case, whole article needs to be reverted to remove all the "theys". 2601:19C:527F:A660:7DC9:8243:EC0E:7995 (talk) 12:12, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- you’re really gonna be a grammar dick about this? she/they is common shorthand for “she/her + they/them”, and you clearly already know that. why are you being intentionally obtuse just to invalidate someone’s identity? it doesn’t affect you at all. LeahAChase (talk) 17:28, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- I hesitate to wade into this, but is there a hatnote template that can be placed on an article that uses the "singular they", to "warn" people who might otherwise see such use as a typo? (I did, until I saw that this person uses the singular they.) Jimw338 (talk) 21:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- People that want to use "singular they" should create a whole new word because they is plural, not singular. It's too confusing and obtuse to have it be both singular and plural. 70.161.8.90 (talk) 11:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's grammatically incorrect to use the word they or their when referring to one person. When referring to herself, she uses "I", which is correct, instead of we. This whole gender ideology is exactly as it seems.... Complete BS. 2600:1011:B32A:516B:0:8:19F9:601 (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article is borderline unreadable from the passage "was born...to Krista Kay Keller and Alex John Stodden. They have two sisters, Ashley and Brittany, 9 and 11 years older than Stodden. Stodden describes their childhood..." onward. Who has/have two sisters? Whose childhood? Just the subject's? Just the two sisters mentioned? All three sisters?
- Leaving aside the issue of whether this person even warrants a Wiki, the pronoun business is just a mess. It's awful writing, unclear writing, arrogant writing, and borderline illiterate writing. Return to grammatical pronouns and clear writing, using words the way 99% of the English-speaking world actually uses those words. Stop eroding Wikipedia's reputation by indulging this stupidity. 2601:C2:1600:5E0:D8EA:35AE:1D5:AFF2 (talk) 05:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's grammatically incorrect to use the word they or their when referring to one person. When referring to herself, she uses "I", which is correct, instead of we. This whole gender ideology is exactly as it seems.... Complete BS. 2600:1011:B32A:516B:0:8:19F9:601 (talk) 21:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- People that want to use "singular they" should create a whole new word because they is plural, not singular. It's too confusing and obtuse to have it be both singular and plural. 70.161.8.90 (talk) 11:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Stodden uses singular they pronouns, per this source, as indicated in the article. Nightscream (talk) 21:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2022
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Change “ According to Stodden, the couple enrolled in therapy to resolve issues that arose from their big difference marriage in age.[26]” to “ According to Stodden, the couple enrolled in therapy to resolve ”age-difference issues such as communication…”.[26]” to correct grammar and use Stodden’s quote from the article. 76.249.132.145 (talk) 02:10, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2024
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She is no longer engaged to Chris Sheng as of February 2023 2600:1007:B0A7:E2E6:DDC3:C8CE:7453:79DA (talk) 20:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Rehsarb (talk) 21:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Pronoun update request
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
- Why it should be changed:
Quick fix, I just don't have an account
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
Goddard, Molly Claire (June 13, 2022). "Courtney Stodden Admits They 'Hid' Who They Really Were Before Self Discovery Journey: 'It Was Survival Mode'". OK!. Archived from the original on June 5, 2023. Retrieved June 14, 2022.
2601:19E:8500:A430:BC3B:7946:9010:849B (talk) 08:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
References
- I'm not actually sure that the IP is asking for here, but i have undone a previous edit which blatantly ignored and removed the hidden comment stating that "they/their" pronouns should be used in this article. This action may have answered the request, but i'm leaving it as is for now. Happy days, ~ LindsayHello 10:18, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's almost certainly what was intended – marking as answered. Tollens (talk) 06:53, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2024
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IN RELATIONSHIPS SECTION
In August 2023 Courtney Stodden began dating Producer Jared Safier
https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/31/courtney-stodden-secret-date-boyfriend-hollywood-producer-jared-safier/ 23.249.137.233 (talk) 20:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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