Talk:Countrycide
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Ianto's last kiss
[edit]Ianto says that his last kiss was with Lisa, but infact he doesn't realize it was with Jack. And also Jack thinks his last kiss was with the sex gas. But I seriously think that Jack was in a passionate kiss.
- Gwen uses the term 'snog', specifically, so I don't think the "Cyberwoman" Jack/Ianto 'kiss' counts all that particularly, at least on Ianto's part. Radagast 03:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Anyone else think Jack may have meant the Doctor? He might be counting that as his last "real" one. ~ CZeke 21:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nope. Since he last saw the Doctor, Jack has travelled back in time and lived through the whole of the twentieth century — I would imagine he's kissed a few people in that time! Estelle from "Small Worlds" for one. Jellyman (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Anyone else think Jack may have meant the Doctor? He might be counting that as his last "real" one. ~ CZeke 21:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Leadership?
[edit]What is Captain Jack up to? He leaves his main base unmanned, with no evidence of any allowance for an unrelated emergency. Takes his entire force into dangerous territory without backup. Does not have anyone assigned to protecting the 'forward base'. Fails to call for backup when the situation is obviously getting out of control. Splits his forces in the face of a very suspicious situation. He's supposed to be an experienced leader, this is rubbish.
So too is the damn plot. In the countryside, people are keenly aware of what their neighbours are up to.
--GwydionM 18:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Firstly, Wikipedia talk pages are not meant to discuss the plot of the episode, only changes that can be made to the article. And secondly, to be fair, all the neighbours were aware; they were all cannibals! Laïka 21:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Does that include Kieran? The article isn't terribly clear. RobbieG 16:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Kieran says during the episode that he's not from there, he has to get back home. So no, I don't think he's one of them.220.244.146.142 13:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Seriously, how about this for an improvement, many of the Torchwood episodes include classic plot style and technique that goes unreferenced and without proper homage, there really should be a running tally per episode and for each season so that the punters out there can compare and track, just like the inventory of aliens and their devices that's already kept:
- "to snog or not to snog", just like any professional soap-opera or game of spin the bottle, who's left to snog is vital analysis
- "run and stumble", obviously a gimme to the union's female members, this is a right granted in perpetuity since the inception of film and appears to be in jepardy of the bi-curious nature of the team
- "scream, quarrel, and rant", a golden standard to pad an episode to minimum run length, usually due to script-writers unexpectedly running over their allotted quota of coherent plot or character development
- "don't shoot first and ask useless questions now", an anti-violence on TV regulation, which the directors implement flawlessly despite Torchwood's gun toting and training and hugh amount of run-ins and long experience with alien riff-raff
- (notice how well the director manages to put off Jack's last-second, shoot them all in the knees rescue, a wee wink to his stunning marksmanship over easier and most assured standards based shoot 'em in the torso)
- "don't ask, don't tell", aka "there's no 'team' in 'I'," there's no better way to secure one's position or job than by keeping information to one's self, even if it includes hearing alien thoughts or seeing obvious alien activity no matter how dangerous to one's self or one's team mates, one must never, never call for backup, shout for help, and heaven-forbid, answer a team mate's query whether "where are you", or "are you okay" as to do otherwise snuff's any attempt to build plot tension
- 67.176.29.209 08:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Brecon Beacons?
[edit]How do we know this episode was in the Brecon Beacons? I don't remember anyone naming a location for the village. U-Mos 16:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- The location was stated in the BBC press releases for the episode — and you can sort of tell by the landscape, I think. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
They also mentioned it in the De-Classified episode.
The long row of cottages is at Penwyllt and is the home of the [South Wales Caving Club]
Old Doctor Who Quarry?
[edit]Would anyone familiar with the rock quarries in the old Doctor Who series recognize the one (at the first investigation site) as one of them? It looks kind of familiar, but there were so many in the old series. blx 08:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I added some references and Why This Episode Matters
[edit]I added some references, but I couldn't figure out how to add them to the one existing reference so that they all form one cohesive list. Hopefully someone else can fix that? And hopefully then the article won't be in danger of being deleted/merged?
Because, the reason this article/episode is important is because it stands out from all other Torchwood episodes. It is the only one that doesn't have aliens as monsters - it has humans as monsters. And it is the scariest freakin' episode in the entire run of Torchwood. So it's making an important meta-point that we ourselves are the scariest monsters of all. I regularly refer to it in conversation for this reason. I think it is definitely notable enough to warrant its own page. 68.0.206.102 (talk) 02:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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