Talk:Count Henrik of Monpezat
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On 1 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Henrik, Count of Monpezat to Count Henrik of Monpezat. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Article Name
[edit]Isn't there a better title this article could have?--RadioFan (talk) 04:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I believe Prince Christian of Denmark and his sister's article was also named with similar manner before their christenings. Though it was widely expected Prince Christian will be named Christian per Danish tradition to name first in lines alternating between frederik and christian. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 07:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I understand the steps in naming the child and that a definitive name isn't possible at the moment. Guessing at the name seems wrong as well without some good reliable sources to draw upon. Is there anything definitive that could be used for now? Perhaps based on his position in line to the throne?--RadioFan (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- No, the only thing definitive that could be used for now is what we have now - Prince NN of Denmark. The name will remain unknown until he is christened and that will be in about 3 months, I presume. Surtsicna (talk) 17:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Is there something specific to the 'NN' portion? Wouldn't Unamed Prince of Denmark be a bit better? The current seems a bit confusing. It could lead some readers to think that the child was named NN for some reason.--RadioFan (talk) 18:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe you should consider having a vote on the title. In a way, I liked the title of "Unnamed Prince of Denmark", but I also like Prince NN of Denmark. But Prince(ss) NN of Denmark was also applied to his cousins, children of Prince Frederik and Princess Mary. w.tanoto-soegiri (talk) 19:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Since only you and I seem to care and you dont seem to have a problem with the suggestion, I'm going to WP:BEBOLD and move it.--RadioFan (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Weird story... Is it normal to keep a baby unnamed for three months? Perhaps they do call him some name, don't they? OK, the keep the name in secret, but what did they do with previous generations - this should be known by now, right? NVO (talk) 14:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is normal for the Danish royal family. The only definites are the names of the crown prince and his first born son, which alternate between Frederik and Christian, so when his cousin was born, everyone assumed it would be Christian, as it was. But with both of this prince's older brothers and his cousin Isabella, the names are kept private until the official baptism. It's been done this way in the Danish royal family for generations, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but is fairly common practice among Lutherans in Denmark. Morhange (talk) 02:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Update Name as of 26th July
[edit]As it is now (soon) the 26th July, the article should be updated with the name from the christening, with appropriate sources.
This means moving the article and updating its content, as well as other references to Unnamed Prince of Denmark and Prince NN of Denmark throughout Wikipedia. (However, redirects will continue to work even if these references are not updated.)
twilsonb (talk) 11:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is still 25 July in Denmark, so he is still unnamed. Surtsicna (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
It's Henrik Carl Joachim Alain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.160.7.139 (talk) 16:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Requested move 28 February 2017
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Moved.(non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 17:35, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Prince Henrik of Denmark → Prince Henrik of Denmark (born 2009) – Clearer disambiguation from the other Prince Henrik of Denmark (born 1934), who is the primary topic. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:36, 28 February 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose nonsense of getting with two disambigs at the same time. ApprenticeFan work 05:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't follow. There is no disambiguation page. "Prince Henrik of Denmark" should point at the primary topic not be used as the title of a secondary topic. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:26, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic?: "Although a word, name or phrase may refer to more than one topic, it is sometimes the case that one of these topics is the primary topic. This is the topic to which the term should lead, serving as the title of (or a redirect to) the relevant article." and Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Redirecting to a primary topic: "The title of the primary topic article may be different from the ambiguous term. ... When this is the case, the term should redirect to the article." Celia Homeford (talk) 13:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- In a google search for "Prince Henrik of Denmark", nine of the top ten hits refers to the older Prince Henrik, and the life and biography of the older one is about ten times longer than the younger. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:44, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose unless Henrik, Prince Consort of Denmark is actually moved to Prince Henrik of Denmark (born 1934). If the article is at the former link, there's no reason to change little Henrik's article. Piratesswoop (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- The reason to change it is so that people seeking the consort go straight to his article instead of coming here and then having to figure out that it's the wrong person. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:35, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support some move. The present title is WP:INCOMPLETEDAB as it could refer to either of the princes of Denmark named Henrik. Further confusing the matter is the fact that Prince Henrik and Henrik of Denmark redirect to the other Prince Henrik of Denmark. The current proposal is not optimal but is at least unambiguous.--Cúchullain t/c 15:00, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nomination and Cúchullain. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 10:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support I definitely think here needs to be sometime to make clear this article is talking about the grandson Henrik. I think everyone thinks of the grandfather Henrik when they hear Prince Henrik of Denmark, even if his page is currently titled Henrik, Prince Consort of Denmark, not Prince Henrik of Denmark. Arg Matey (talk) 19:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Nikolai, Count of Monpezat which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 00:00, 2 January 2023 (UTC)