Talk:Cortez the Killer

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Is there a non-POV way to say that this song is bullshit? Because I love Neil Young and I love the guitar work here, (I'm even listening to "Tired Eyes" right now) but "hate was just a legend/war was never known" is as accurate a version of history as the one promulgated by the current "In the News" headliner on this site.

One person's bullshit is another person's "this song presents the Aztec civilization in an idealised form, disconnected from versimilitude". By the way, it's a great song. -- Beardo 19:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have always felt that the song is deliberately romanticized and naive, as it seems to be told from the perspective of a young man who is temporally dislocated: "And I know she's living there and she loves me to this day/But I still don't know when or how I lost my way..." Proof Reader (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A source for the PCP claim would be nice. Deleuze 11:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps whoever added that quote from Jimmy McDonough's book Shakey should probably add it to the bottom as a reference.--Lairor 04:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Banned in Spain?

Can anyone find some proof other than Neil Young's liner notes that this song was actually banned in Spain. It is very unlikely to me that the spanish would feel threatened to a Neil Young song, I don't think he could have been that popular there at that moment and place in history. Also Franco was no longer in power at the time of the album release, he actually died 10 days after that date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.88.105 (talk) 17:47, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted verse

Neil has sang the "missing"/deleted verse in concert. He definitely sang it in his set at Hamburg on 29th April 2003:

The ship is breaking up on the rocks / The sandy beach / So close / So close

This verse seems to indicate that in another [alternate history|timeline]], Cortes' expedition ends in failure; or it could be a fantasy of the protagonist.

Proof Reader (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Breach of Wikipedia trust

"canadian jazzfunk pianist justin besant' does not exist in any way, shape or form. He is just some kid who attempts to promulgate his name on the internet. Check out his user page- its also all fake, the albums names are obviously false. Who would name an album Nubbis? if you google the name, the only hits are websites that are self-editable. (wiki and last.fm) someone should purge this imposter from the internet

Native Americans

Can someone find a way of linking this, Like an Inca and the various songs about Indians - Pocohontas etc. ? -- Beardo 19:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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First Person Could be Young

How about this for an alternative explanation for the first person lyrics in the song: I think at this point in the song Young is comparing himself, the rock star, to Cortez, as someone who plunders innocence and leaves. "She loves me to this day," but he just took her innocence and left for the next show. It is in the first person after all. I think this perspective adds a great deal of depth to the song.

Vandalism

Some user edited this page to add a bunch of nonsense about John F. Kennedy and Nicolas Cage in the guise of Aztec emperors. I removed the most egregious violations, but the article needs a lot of fixing. Bart133 ^{t c @} 23:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Matthews and Warren Haynes

Saturday September 3rd 2011 Dave Matthews invited Warren Haynes onto the stage at the Gorge Amphitheater in George Washington for another round of Cortez the Killer.

Here is a link to the set list, although it may require re-entering the date... http://road.davematthewsband.com/SetlistsDir/setlist.asp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timbo151 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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