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I'm not absolutely certain about this, so haven't put it in the article, but isn't Corby the largest place in Britain without a mainline railway station, now that Mansfield has one? Loganberry 03:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Umm... I'm going to need some help fixing all the links from Corby to Corby (town) Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance! Flcelloguy 17:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

... Why did you move it?
James F. (talk) 18:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure this justfies being moved for the sake of some actress whose second name is Corby, I would of thought this was a pretty sound case for "primary disambiguation". Besides Corby (town) is completely wrong. G-Man 20:55, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, primary-topic seems sensible.
James F. (talk) 23:25, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Not the biggest town without a station?

Fancy QI getting something wrong! -- Smjg 15:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Not so fast! Corby is the biggest separate urban area without a railway station.

Exile 20:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

What, please, does separate above mean? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.125.12.155 (talk) 10:59, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

My understanding was that, although there are more populous places, such as Gosport, without a railway station, they can be considered part of a larger urban area or conurbation, for example Gosport-Fareham, with the latter having a station. Corby's claim was based on the fact that it is not a connected to any settlement with a station. Even if this claim was false, they certainly convinced enough people as they now have a station! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woollven (talk • contribs) 10:57, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

car for speed record?

"Ford Cosworth" is not a car, anyone know what car this is talking about? Cosworth is an engine manufacturer which made engines which were badged as ford until 2004. I presume this should be a Ford Cosworth-engined champ car, NASCAR or somesuch? Spute 09:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

What are you on about? There are numerous Ford Cosworth cars, in such models as Sierra, Escort, Focus, Capri..etc etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.88.122 (talk) 17:06, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Regarding edit by 82.70.160.238

I'm sorry, but I really don't think that deleting large sections of an article like that is justified, even if the article wasn't written from a NPOV. I have reverted the article to its previous state, and marked it as disputed. I would clear this up myself, but I know nothing about Corby and so can't be any help. TheSTtalk 23:38, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I've rewritten and expanded the article in a (hopefully) more encyclopedic way. I've also removed the POV tag since I think the status of 'disputed neutrality' isn't justified for the fairly minor POV transgressions. I won't mind if someone decides to put the POV tag back. Duncan Keith 12:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

As a Corby resident, I found some of JimScotland's edits quite incendiary and unneccesary. The edit made by 82.70.160.238 seemed much more balanced. The re-edit by Duncan Keith is better than both - though I have made a few spelling and grammatical fixes. 82.69.206.201

Well, I'm glad that's all cleared up now! TheSTtalk 21:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit by 193.115.70.42

The IP 193.115.70.42 resolves to Trillium Estates Ltd, a part of the Land Securities group... Duncan Keith 17:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

A while ago I changed the inline links on this page to footnotes. Duncan Keith has just pointed me to the relevant guidelines, and since I didn't previously realise that I should have sought consensus first I'd like to leave it open for discussion now. I personally think that things are more organised with a References section at the end of the article; does anyone object to leaving things as they currently are? Adam McMaster 18:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Removed the statement "Due to a very selective student intake." from the text on Brooke Weston. It's ambiguous but I think it implies a common misconception about the school picking the best and brightest children.

82.29.172.230 17:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

accent

Unique for its region, Corby has a rhotic accent. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.125.12.155 (talk) 10:57, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

what it is

The intro talks of it as a town and district, but perhaps the most important fact is that it's a borough. Insofar as the name is also given to a constituency which, as far as I can see, doesn't coincide with the borough, this should also be made clear early on. And might Alternative Sec.31 be explained, please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.125.12.155 (talk • contribs) 12:09, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

Decline of the steel industry

My two main reasons for changing Rolo Tamasi's assertions about British Steel's strategy are (1) Steel making was not just to be restricted to coastal regions -- Sheffield is as far from the coast as Corby. (2) It ignores the fact that nationalised industries in the 1970s did not conduct their long-term planning in a political vacuum. Decisions were influenced not just by explicit government interference but by the political difficulties of imposing job losses in Labour strongholds. The economic factors mentioned were certainly of great importance but don't tell the whole story. Unless we want a detailed discussion of 1970s politics in the article I feel it would be better just to state the effect of British Steel's strategy on the Corby works.

While these factors did exist to some degree they had no impact on the Corby decision. The fundamental reason Corby closed was due to the poor ore and any history that does not explain this is fundamentally flawed. No integrated steelmaking site in the world has survived based on 30% ores. The only non-coastal steel making (iron making) to remain was Scunthorpe, while substantial investments took place at the big coastal sites in South Wales and Teesside. There is no evidence at all that there was some political "favouring" taking place in the decision.
The area that political "favouring" may have been a factor was Glasgow. The only way to compete was to have sites making no less than 3 million tonnes each, preferably 5 million. British Steel therefore did not want 5 integrated sites they wanted no more than 4. Ravenscraig was the high cost remaining site but was to survive for another decade. An important factor was that government financial support for steelmaking (i.e. funding lossmaking plants) had been made illegal in the EU. Rolo Tamasi 09:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

On the question of the new industries that came to Corby, I agree that distribution facilities were important for many of them, but other factors including the nature of the workforce and the planning and subsidy climate were important too. Unless we're willing to have a discussion of all the factors involved then again I think it is better just to stick to the facts. --Duncan Keith 21:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Corby's success is undoubtedly down to its location and good communications. The availability of labour of course influenced things but not as much as the financial incentives, however it was the most successful Enterprise Zone because the others did not have the benefits of Corby’s location. The evidence of this is huge and not to mention it is to ignore the single major factor that makes Corby the place it is today. Rolo Tamasi 09:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I have been checking some of the stats and cannot justify the 11,000 redundancies figure - the number I keep finding is 6,000. Rolo Tamasi 09:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't doubt that access to the coast was a factor in choosing where to concentrate steel making, but if the article is to move beyond the facts of what happend to an analysis of the reasons for decisions then those reasons need to referenced in the article.
I simply disagree with your assertion that virtually all new industry located in Corby for distribution reasons.Good transport infrastructure is of course a factor, but I think that the Enterprise Zone and Assisted Area status were at least as important. In any case this remains a matter of opinion until it is documented. Duncan Keith 13:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
We agree. AA and EZ were very important, as were many other factors, workforce, local government rolling its sleeves up and really getting stuck in etc. However, location and transport communications also were major factors.
My personal view (not therefore expressed in the article) is that the location issues are fundamental long-term economic differentiators for Corby’s growth. The others factors were more responsible for the extremely fast change to high employment. Rolo Tamasi (talk) 12:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

B Class? Seriously?

I notice that this article has been rated as B Class. However I feel that in its current form it contains a lot of unsubstantiated information, opinion, and more than a few contradictory statements (see for example the information on the new station under transport, and then contradictory information under regeneration).

From reading the assessment criteria for Geography based articles, I feel that at best this could be rated C Class, and more likely Start Class until a thorough clean-up is undertaken...anyone got any views? 195.92.101.11 (talk) 12:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I have assessed the article against the criteria specified by WikiProject:UK Geography and regraded the article as C Class. The article requires cleanup, particularly in the area you mention above - one section details a bus service that is still running, while the other describes it in the past tense. ColourSarge (talk) 17:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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