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Taxonomic inconsistency and linkages

Since 2016 there has been a debate over whether Platypelis should be a synonym of Cophyla.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] The group of authors arguing for the synonymy of the two genera run the Amphibian Species of the World database, and have not removed Platypelis from synonymy of Cophyla despite the fact that all work since 2016 has supported the monophyly of these two genera^[5]^[6], and researchers working on the taxonomy of these frogs continue to use Platypelis.^[7]^[8] AmphibiaWeb also still considers the two genera distinct.

This is a place where the Wikipedia:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles may need to follow AmphibiaWeb over the ASW database, as the ASW team have a conflict of interest. HOWEVER! I myself also have a COI, declared above, as I am one of the researchers working on these frogs and am directly involved in this debate. It will be necessary for an impartial third party, ideally more than one, to read both sides of the debate and decide what course of action to take.

Whatever decision is reached, currently the species that are generally considered as Platypelis are still under that genus name on Wikipedia (e.g. Platypelis grandis, Platypelis tsaratananaensis, and either need to be migrated to Cophyla pages, or the Platypelis page needs to be reinstated. Dr Mark D. Scherz 15:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Peloso, P. L. V.; Frost, D. R.; Richards, S. J.; Rodrigues, M. T.; Donnellan, S.; Matsui, M.; Raxworhty, C. J.; Biju, S. D.; Lemmon, E. M.; Lemmon, A. R.; Wheeler, W. C. (2016). "The impact of anchored phylogenomics and taxon sampling on phylogenetic inference in narrow-mouthed frogs (Anura, Microhylidae)". Cladistics. 32 (2): 113–140. doi:10.1111/cla.12118.
^ Scherz, Mark D.; Vences, Miguel; Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Andreone, Franco; Köhler, Jörn; Glaw, Frank; Crottini, Angelica (2016). "Reconciling molecular phylogeny, morphological divergence and classification of Madagascan narrow-mouthed frogs (Amphibia: Microhylidae)". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 100: 372–381. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2016.04.019. PMID 27085671.
^ Peloso, Pedro L.V.; Raxworthy, Christopher J.; Wheeler, Ward C.; Frost, Darrel R. (2017). "Nomenclatural stability does not justify recognition of paraphyletic taxa: A response to Scherz et al. (2016)". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 111: 56–64. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2017.03.016.
^ Scherz, Mark D.; Vences, Miguel; Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Andreone, Franco; Köhler, Jörn; Glaw, Frank; Crottini, Angelica (2017). "Lumping or splitting in the Cophylinae (Anura: Microhylidae) and the need for a parsimony of taxonomic changes: a response to Peloso et al. (2017)". Salamandra. 53 (3): 479–483.
^ Feng, Yan-Jie; Blackburn, David C.; Liang, Dan; Hillis, David M.; Wake, David B.; Cannatella, David C.; Zhang, Peng (2017-07-18). "Phylogenomics reveals rapid, simultaneous diversification of three major clades of Gondwanan frogs at the Cretaceous–Paleogene boundary". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 114 (29): E5864–E5870. doi:10.1073/pnas.1704632114. PMC 5530686. PMID 28673970.
^ Tu, Na; Yang, MengHua; Liang, Dan; Zhang, Peng (September 2018). "A large-scale phylogeny of Microhylidae inferred from a combined dataset of 121 genes and 427 taxa". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 126: 85–91. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2018.03.036. ISSN 1055-7903. PMID 29649581.
^ Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Scherz, Mark D.; Köhler, Jörn; Ratsoavina, Fanomezana M.; Hawlitschek, Oliver; Megson, Steven; Vences, Miguel; Glaw, Frank (2020-06-05). "Frogs of the genus Platypelis from the Sorata massif in northern Madagascar: description of a new species and reports of range extensions". Zoosystematics and Evolution. 96 (1): 263–274. doi:10.3897/zse.96.47088. ISSN 1860-0743.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
^ Scherz, Mark D.; Köhler, Jörn; Vences, Miguel; Glaw, Frank (2019-06-26). "A new yellow-toed Platypelis species (Anura, Microhylidae, Cophylinae) from the Maroantsetra region, northeastern Madagascar". Evolutionary Systematics. 3 (1): 75–83. doi:10.3897/evolsyst.3.33417. ISSN 2535-0730.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

[Pel16-1] Peloso, P. L. V.; Frost, D. R.; Richards, S. J.; Rodrigues, M. T.; Donnellan, S.; Matsui, M.; Raxworhty, C. J.; Biju, S. D.; Lemmon, E. M.; Lemmon, A. R.; Wheeler, W. C. (2016). "The impact of anchored phylogenomics and taxon sampling on phylogenetic inference in narrow-mouthed frogs (Anura, Microhylidae)". Cladistics. 32 (2): 113–140. doi:10.1111/cla.12118.

[Scherz16-2] Scherz, Mark D.; Vences, Miguel; Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Andreone, Franco; Köhler, Jörn; Glaw, Frank; Crottini, Angelica (2016). "Reconciling molecular phylogeny, morphological divergence and classification of Madagascan narrow-mouthed frogs (Amphibia: Microhylidae)". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 100: 372–381. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2016.04.019. PMID 27085671.

[3] Peloso, Pedro L.V.; Raxworthy, Christopher J.; Wheeler, Ward C.; Frost, Darrel R. (2017). "Nomenclatural stability does not justify recognition of paraphyletic taxa: A response to Scherz et al. (2016)". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 111: 56–64. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2017.03.016.

[4] Scherz, Mark D.; Vences, Miguel; Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Andreone, Franco; Köhler, Jörn; Glaw, Frank; Crottini, Angelica (2017). "Lumping or splitting in the Cophylinae (Anura: Microhylidae) and the need for a parsimony of taxonomic changes: a response to Peloso et al. (2017)". Salamandra. 53 (3): 479–483.

[5] Feng, Yan-Jie; Blackburn, David C.; Liang, Dan; Hillis, David M.; Wake, David B.; Cannatella, David C.; Zhang, Peng (2017-07-18). "Phylogenomics reveals rapid, simultaneous diversification of three major clades of Gondwanan frogs at the Cretaceous–Paleogene boundary". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 114 (29): E5864–E5870. doi:10.1073/pnas.1704632114. PMC 5530686. PMID 28673970.

[:0-6] Tu, Na; Yang, MengHua; Liang, Dan; Zhang, Peng (September 2018). "A large-scale phylogeny of Microhylidae inferred from a combined dataset of 121 genes and 427 taxa". Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution. 126: 85–91. doi:10.1016/j.ympev.2018.03.036. ISSN 1055-7903. PMID 29649581.

[7] Rakotoarison, Andolalao; Scherz, Mark D.; Köhler, Jörn; Ratsoavina, Fanomezana M.; Hawlitschek, Oliver; Megson, Steven; Vences, Miguel; Glaw, Frank (2020-06-05). "Frogs of the genus Platypelis from the Sorata massif in northern Madagascar: description of a new species and reports of range extensions". Zoosystematics and Evolution. 96 (1): 263–274. doi:10.3897/zse.96.47088. ISSN 1860-0743.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

[8] Scherz, Mark D.; Köhler, Jörn; Vences, Miguel; Glaw, Frank (2019-06-26). "A new yellow-toed Platypelis species (Anura, Microhylidae, Cophylinae) from the Maroantsetra region, northeastern Madagascar". Evolutionary Systematics. 3 (1): 75–83. doi:10.3897/evolsyst.3.33417. ISSN 2535-0730.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

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