Talk:Copa União

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This page is allusive to the Campeonato Brasileiro 1987. This is the English version, so fortunately version of the same article (Copa União) in Portuguese.

I know this is a controversial issue, but there is a serious inconsistency here. Regardless of where you stand on who the 1987 Brazilian Champion was, the name Copa União is a trademark of the Club of 13 (the now defunct league of the 13 most popular teams in Brazil) and refers only to the league played by them plus Coritiba, Goias and Santa Cruz, which had Flamengo as champions -- and not to the so-called Brazilian Championship as conceived by the CBF, which according to the Federal Justice had Sport Recife as champions and, according to the CBF, comprised the Copa União. This very same article seems to recognize that, when it equals the "Green Module" (the CBF parlance) with the "Copa União" (the Club of 13 organised league).

Tinhorão — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.36.109.169 (talk) 12:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have rearranged this article, which, as I mentioned, had a serious inconsistency. This is an article about the 1987 Copa União which -- regardless of where you stand on the controversy about who the 1987 Brazilian champion was, Flamengo or Sport -- was undeniably won by Flamengo. Yet the article many times conflated the Copa União (which was conceived as an independent league and was a trademark of the Club of the 13) with the CBF organised championship. I am not passing judgment here on who the national champion was: I am just stating the Copa União as such was won by Flamengo. Hope we can agree on this. Tinhorão — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.36.109.169 (talk) 13:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two pages

Probably we should make a separate page for each competition (Clube dos 13's 1987 Copa União and CBF's 1987 Campeonato Brasileiro). --Carioca (talk) 18:56, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1987

CBF=SPORT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.56.161.224 (talk) 15:34, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brazilian Football Confederation: 1987=SPORT

champion for the CBF was SPORT=>https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Uni%C3%A3o — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.56.161.224 (talk) 16:20, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Brazilian Football Confederation command the football in Brazil: 1987=Sport Champion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.56.161.224 (talk) 16:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

STF

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A coisa julgada possui envergadura maior, não assumindo a posição de instituto a envolver simples interpretação de normas ordinárias. Trata-se de garantia inerente a cláusula do Estado Democrático de Direito, a revelá-la ato perfeito por excelência, porquanto decorre de pronunciamento do Judiciário. Ocorre que o título executivo judicial implicou a proclamação do Sport Clube como campeão do torneio brasileiro de 1987. Resolução da Confederação Brasileira de Futebol não podia dispor em sentido diverso, sob pena de ganhar, nos campos administrativo, cível e desportivo, contornos de rescisória. O acórdão do Superior Tribunal de Justiça impugnado é nesse sentido. Ante o quadro, nego seguimento ao recurso.

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— Marco Aurélio de Mello, Supremo Tribunal Federal 04/03/2016[1]

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