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Is primarily focused on history, it is more a history article than a geography article. Michellecrisp 05:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free

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Please feel free to add more geography if you wish. Cheers, John Hill 05:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wind and kitesurfing, windsurfing activities

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I recently added the following text, which was then removed wit the comment "not needed" [diff]

Cooktown gets regular strong trade winds over the dry season months of May through to September that provides good conditions for kitesurfing and windsurfing at the beach near the Annan River mouth.

I think this adds useful information to the article and propose that it be included. Peter Campbell 01:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It hasn't been removed as you can tell from reading the article. The only thing removed in that edit was the was the disambiguation term "(Queensland)" from the link to Annan River which is no longer needed as the "Annan River" article has been renamed. It was a minor, technical edit to a link and your text remains, untouched.
That said, your addition to the article should have a reliable source or it should be removed. The test for inclusion in Wikipedia is not truth but verifiability. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 01:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. I didn't check the article closely enough. I will find a citation. Peter Campbell 03:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tsunami

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Does anybody have a verifiable source for this (as reported on a radio show): "on 4th March 1899, a 12 metre wave hit Cooktown and 400 people lost their lives"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philu (talk • contribs) 00:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This link confirms the radio report. See Mahina Cyclone of 1899 for more information. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 00:13, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Northern most town?

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This article says it's the northern most town on the east coast of Australia, but this title is also boasted by Lockhart River, Queensland. They can't both be the northernmost town, and Lockhart River is further north. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.89.227 (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "town". According to the Queensland Place Names, here are the the most northerly (by latitude) places in the category of City/Town/Township. So, it's a question of where you want to draw the line as to what's a town and what's a township (which the place name database does not concern itself with), e.g. has population of more than X people, has a pub, has a post office, has a football team, or whatever. But as you can see from the table below, there are a lot of contenders north of Cooktown. Kerry (talk) 09:28, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Place Name Latitude
Boigu -9.232222222
Saibai -9.389722222
Dauan Island -9.413888889
Stephens Island -9.507222222
Darnley Island -9.596666667
Yam Island -9.899444444
Murray Island -9.915
Mabuiag Island -9.953333333
Coconut Island -10.05
Badu -10.13222222
Dogai -10.15611111
Poid -10.16722222
St Pauls -10.1875
Sue Island -10.20611111
Kubin -10.23305556
Hammond Island -10.55416667
Rose Hill -10.56972222
Thursday Island -10.585
Wasaga -10.59416667
Muralug -10.6
Seisia -10.84972222
New Mapoon -10.86611111
Aloa -10.88472222
Bamaga -10.88777778
Umagico -10.8925
Injinoo -10.90611111
Mapoon -12.01888889
Portland Road -12.5975
Weipa -12.63
Napranum -12.68222222
Lockhart River -12.785
Aurukun -13.35833333
Coen -13.94333333
Port Stewart -14.06666667
Moojeeba -14.07888889
Ebagoola -14.30361111
Pormpuraaw -14.89777778
Hope Vale -15.29611111
Cooktown -15.47222222
Having the "northernmost town" on Lockhart River and Cooktown if they're both south of Weipa would seem obviously wrong. I think I've also heard the term used in relation to Bamaga, which is much further north of all three; am not sure about places more northerly than that. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Now we get into the definition of what we mean by "east coast". Weipa is on the west coast of the Gulf of Carpentaria and even Bamaga is on the western side of the tip of Cape York, so arguable not on the east coast. Lockhart River is slightly inland, so not strictly "on" the coast, whereas Cooktown is definitely "on" the coast. Are the Torres Strait Islands on the east coast? If so, Thursday Island has a bigger population than Cooktown or Lockhart River. But I honestly think these kinds of claims (nice as they sound in the tourist literature) are pretty useless without clear definitions of "town", "east coast". It is fair to say that the Cape York area isn't flush with towns. I think I'd weaken any claims to be along the lines "Cooktown is one of the few large towns in the Cape York Peninsula" which is true and avoid the "most"-ness issue. Kerry (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Kerry Raymond's note above. There is no need to make claims as to which community is furthest north or which is a "town." I think this situation probably came about from the fact that the two communities of any size on the east coast of Australia north of Cooktown, HopeVale and Lockhardt River were both significantly smaller than Cooktown and were Aboriginal communities rather than "towns" in the usual sense. But it is really splitting hairs to argue about this. I like Kerry's suggestion wording: "Cooktown is one of the few large towns in the Cape York Peninsula" or something similar - and I live just outside Cooktown. If there are no arguments about this position in the next little while, I would be happy to make the changes to the article. John Hill (talk) 07:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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