Talk:Cookie Crew
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Scoop da house
[edit]– There is no Wiki-article on Scoop (band); perhaps this could be added. Members of band would seem to be Daniël Moerenhout and Jan Vervloet.
– There are numerous songs/tracks with the title "Rock da House" or the variant which you find hard to distinguish, "Rock the house"; after ending up with a list over a fifty, I decided to stop compiling a list. Even Wikipedia itself boasts a couple of dozen, notably Rock the House by Gorillaz.
– And the 13 year time gap is relevant as the Beatmasters/Cookie Crew version was neither competing with nor confused with the Scoop track during 1987 as it gained popularity in the clubs - a claim that could be made namesake track by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince.
– On the research note, the sample of "Rok da house" was going around on the pirate radio stations in early 1987; and I've got an uncanny feeling that it was on a compilation tape during the summer of '87 (NME or Record Mirror).
– There is an unusual article about "Rocking the House" which along with the hip-house reference in the article sounds a bit like wishful journalism... → friedfish 22:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Let's Get Da Facts
[edit]Scoop the band is mentioned on the diambiguation page of scoop, but I was not able to find enough material for an article. In the limited context you set, you are correct about the time gap, but it IS irrelevant for today's researcher. A researcher looking for the Cookie Crew in European sources who doesn't know the spelling should be "ROK" will turn up the Scoop number instead, particularly if you hunt for the mp3 on Limewire. However, the statement that there are a vast number of songs titled "Rock Da House" is correct. With regard to genre, all the sources referring to ROK DA HOUSE that I found categorise it as "House Music" and a few claim it as the first house hit. ...The only point I feel strongly on is that the comparison to Scoop should stay because of my own personal experience of confusing the two. Headshaker 05:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- So a couple of minor points:
– I thought you put the Scoop (band) on the disambiguation page on 17 March 2006 Change edit. Another interesting fact that I managed to find out about "Scoop" - their 1999/2000 single "Drop it" was the first Belgian number one in Holland since Technotronic.
– Thank you for correcting my typo - I was trying to correct the Scoop song not the Cookie Crew song. From discogs, the release title of Scoop record is "Rock the house" and sleeve also has this title Photo of cover.
– Not sure of your point of "researchers" making a mistake between Beatmasters with Cookie Crew track and Scoop track. You should encourage young people to go down to a vinyl record store buy both records and start a club somewhere. As for hunting on limewire, well...
– The only other song that has reached the Top 100 of UK Singles Chart since 1952 with the title "Rok da house" was Vinylgroover And The Red Hed in January 2001 (#72) - Source And Nicole and Gorillaz had tracks called "Rock the house" in December 1992 (#63) and November 2001 (#72), respectively.
– As the track was essentially by Beatmasters, the "genre" is much more likely to be "house" rather than "hip house" that the article states. → friedfish 09:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- We seem to have reached a good compromise and useful exchange of knowledge. The reference to "Hip House" was not my edit by the way. I am now happy with the article as it stands but will be equally happy for others to expand it. Headshaker 17:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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