Talk:Convair XFY Pogo

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5. Survivors I'm positive I saw one, on its tail, at NAS Norfolk. (maybe pre-1973)gnomeselby (talk) 11:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Predecessors

site says,

"In 1946, leading Russian helicopter theoretician Professor B.N. Yurjev developed this design for a small delta-winged tail-sitter. Its single Kilmov VK-108 motor, situated aft of the cockpit, was to power both a small forward propeller (used for horizontal flight) and a larger aft propeller that would function during take-offs and landings, and then serve as a canard-like surface during in-flight operations.

"The so-called "KIT-1" never got passed the design stage. However, Yurjev was obviously on the right track as his design bears numerous similarities to the U.S.'s XFY-1 "Pogo" and XFV-1 "Salmon" developed a decade later."

Confirm & mention? Trekphiler 12:29, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps something got messed up in translation from Russian, but I don't see how a propeller on the aft can serve as a canard, which by definition is a forward mounted control surface. I would also think that using an aft propeller for the vertical takeoff would be unstable, while the propeller on top tends to be stable via pendulum effect. Wschart (talk) 04:06, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible. Also possible the original was written by somebody with a poor or incomplete understanding. The point being, tho, should a mention be added if the KIT actually existed? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 05:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The picture on the site indicates a pair of contra-rotating tractor propellors - a smaller forward one with a larger 2-blade one mounted directly aft of the smaller propellor. (Not aft of the engine/body.) I dount that a site for airplane models counts as a reliable source tho...214.4.238.180 (talk) 16:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maximum speed

Can anyone supply a reference for the maximum speed quoted for the Convair XFY? It seems too high, especially in terms of the data and references in the article on fastest propeller-driven aircraft. The National Air and Space Museum site lists a speed of much lower than that quoted in this article. Silverchemist 02:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First flight

Several online sources (eg. [1]) give the date of first flight as 29 April 1954, not 19 April. Drutt (talk) 21:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First Conversion flight - Nov 2 or Nov 5th?????

Folks,

A YouTube video states Nov 2nd but the Nov 12 issue of Flight states (from an AP story) that it is November 5th. Jack Jackehammond (talk) 18:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, Æ volume 127 (Jan/Feb 2007) p. 17 says: "On November 4, 1954, the same day that the Convair XF2Y-1 Sea Dart crashed, killing test pilot Charles Richbourg in San Diego Bay, Skeets made history. The transition to horizontal flight proceeded as briefed". Go figure. Cheers, Rayshade (talk) 20:32, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't use article space to resolve disputes; this is the correct forum. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Pogo-Dart"

While "Pogo" is the WP:COMMONNAME of the XFY, it never had an official name assigned - apparently Convair wanted to call it "Pogo-Dart". here - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name

Nothing at all to say about the origin of the name? Seems pretty clear to me that the name comes not from the VTOL abilities, but because the shape of the aircraft is almost identical to the head of the famous cartoon character Pogo. It really shows in the main photograph at the top of the page. Seems like relevant information, surely the sources would have mentioned this somewhere, no matter how self explanatory they felt it was .

Idumea47b (talk) 07:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If someone finds a reliable source to that effect, it can be added to the article then. Otherwise it's original research, and doesn't belong in the article. BilCat (talk) 08:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have the Yenne book, and it states the aircraft was named for the pogo stick. I've added it to the article. BilCat (talk) 08:40, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]