Talk:Constitution of 3 May 1791/GA1

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Reviewer: Grandiose (talk · contribs) 16:27, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will be reviewing in full shortly, but look very promising. I imagine you're heading onto to FA with this one. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:27, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the image licensing needs improving:

commons:File:Stanislaw_malachowski.jpg, commons:File:Hugon Kołłątaj.PNG, and commons:File:Ignacy_Potocki_2.JPG all need information about the source of the image - who took the picture in question. I don't doubt that PD-ART applies to each, but a source is necessary for plagiarism and other purposes.

Potocki's image replaced with a better one. For Kollataj, I added a similar source; I cannot find the exact source. For Malachowski, I found a hq image, and replaced the current one, noting the source (also, improved description). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to references:

We have a page on Hugh Seton-Watson, although of course this is not a requirement.

Linked. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

51 is best removed as a tertiary and unneeded source.
1. Fixed, as well as another to that source. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why are #60 and #74 to the same book, and in general, whilst others have page numbers? Can one be provided?

Typo in a template fixed, should display page numbers now. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Consider (not a req.) adding a translated title to references such as #98 and #99.

Added. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you also tidy the external links; nothing major. Bucki is used as a reference and may not be suitable. Nothing is particularly necessary, but it would be nice.

Bucki is really kept only for a translation, as the printed source has a fuller quote (but in Polish). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On prose:

"confederations - legal rebellions" ~ should be a dash (m-dashes used elsewhere);
1. I don't know how to fix dashes. They have always been an arcane mystery to me. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Józef Massalski,"~ semicolon would work better;
1. done. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The Enlightenment had gained great influence in certain Commonwealth circles during the reign" ~ I think if you dropped the first link in favour of the second, you could word it so as to be a lots less clumsy;
1. Hmmm, ok. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"eventually blot Poland from the map of Europe" ~ reword please to avoid the non-enyclopedic tone;
1. Sounds good to me. Could you suggest a different wording? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: "1770–71", "1761–1763" ~ inconsistent;
1. Fixed.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion: "3 May", "May 3" ~ inconsistent;
1. Fixed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 14:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"What was left of the Commonwealth was merely a small buffer state with a puppet king and a Russian army." ~ reword or reference;
"[57] [58]" ~ space
1. Fixed, I hope. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
" — " ~ should be unspaced in various places;
"May 3 constitution", "May 3rd constitution" ~ inconsistent;
1. Fixed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"130[ref]-132[ref] senators" ~ can't work out if that's a hyphen, if it is, should be endash;
See if "Sejm" should be capitalised in some places it isn't;
1. Fixed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Some feminists might prefer "motherland."" ~ remove
1. Fixed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No neutrality or stability issues.

On hold for 7 days. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:10, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I fixed all but the dash issues, which I just can't grok. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, think I got all the dash issues. I changed "blot" to "remove" – this reduces the melodrama. For the record, "blot from the map of Europe" sounds a bit like a rhetorical flourish. If you accept "remove" then I'll pass. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:50, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I tried for a bit more flowery language with blot, but I accept that I might have overdone it there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:14, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]