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I am intending to continue the work of other Wikipedians in changing the language around suicide from 'commit suicide' to 'die of suicide'. The phrase 'commit suicide' harkens back to the concept of suicide as a Biblical sin and propagates the stigma around suicide as a deliberate act of harm, when in fact it is an utterly blameless consequence of mental illness. There is no reason to make any exception to this new terminology here, just because the victim happens to be Adolf Hitler. That is irrelevant. My grandfather, for instance, didn't 'commit cancer' - he died of cancer. Hitler didn't 'commit suicide' - he died of suicide. Thecolonpagesaretoocomplicated (talk) 15:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no rule that states the language needs to be changed and as pointed out, an RfC has stated Wikipedia consensus. And that is what we go by. Not to mention major WP:RS biographers use that terminology when describing the act, still. And yes, he did “commit” an overt act, accordingly. Kierzek (talk) 20:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the section on the History Channel Documentary Series, one finds this:
"Such conspiracy theories of survival and escape have been widely dismissed."
With a simple foot note, and no citation.
It appears that the phrase is either an editorial comment, not worthy of a historical article at Wikipedia, or cannot substantiate itself by a single citation.
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'In the 2016 videogame Hearts of Iron IV, it is possible for Hitler to flee to Argentina if he loses in a civil war, he would then become 'Senor Hitler', and be able to create a Fourth Reich.' Orlandoc122 (talk) 11:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In reality he left Berlin by plane in April of 1945 and flew to Switzerland. He boarded a Swiss diplomatic plane and flew to Spain. He was picked up in Spain by a U-boat and fled to Argentina. He was in Argentina from 1945 to 1962. When Mossad captured Adolf Eichman they moved him back to Spain where he was under the direct protection of Franco. Hitler lived a quiet life in Spain from 1962-1970 when he died. Hitler 1889-1970. 2600:1015:A027:EEB6:356F:6158:3D19:C46B (talk) 05:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 20:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)