Talk:Consolidated PB4Y-2 Privateer

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Only the fact that this is a variant of the B-24 keeps me from designating this as Stub-class. Needs lots more information, ~~infoboxes~~ etc. - Aerobird 04:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's currently using both of the templates that WP:Air has implemented. I'm not sure what 'infoboxes' you're talking about. ericg ✈

Aren't the specifications suposed to be in a box? :confused: - Aerobird 22:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. We used to have the specifications in an infobox, but that system was abandoned more than a year ago. We now use Template:aircraft specs. Karl Dickman ^talk 01:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK then, sorry I mixed that up... - Aerobird 02:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Flight engineers station?

What is with the "longer fuselage to accommodate a flight engineers station"? The regular B-24 carried a flight engineer, with a station directly across from the radio operator in the compartment directly to the rear of the flight deck. He generally doubled as an upper gunner while the R/O manned a waist gun (except in Lead ships), although sometimes this was reversed..45Colt 05:06, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"externally similar" to Liberator

Only an expert will spot the relation. To normal people these two planes look absolutely nothing alike. Instead I'd like to propose the phrase: "The Privateer had many parts in common with the Liberator". I'm not going to do the edit myself though, as I don't know if this is strictly accurate. --BjKa (talk) 10:43, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Leave it. I have no idea where this notion came from. It doesn't just "look similar"; the Privateer is in appearance grossly nothing but an exact copy of a Liberator with a different tail grafted on. The unusual nose looks identical. The distinctive slab sided fuselage looks identical. The graceful high wing with four engines looks identical. Other than the tail, only some differences in the gun stations really distinguish them visually. Fnj2 (talk) 13:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The single tail was also used on the B-24K and N (with a small extension on top), and in comparison to late B-24s, the engine cowlings were rotated sideways with the carburetor and oil cooler intakes on the top and bottom instead of the sides, and new turrets were used, most noticeable being the nose and the very distinctive side turrets. The wing and central fuselage remained the same but an extension plug was added between the cockpit and wing which changes the proportions. There were other minor changes, most because the US Navy had different specifications than the US Army, and because it was intended as a long range maritime patrol bomber rather than as a heavy strategic bomber. Same basic airplane though, and the wing was never changed.NiD.29 (talk) 23:41, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Privateer was originally ordered under the name "Sea Liberator" as a Liberator optimised for over-water LRMP use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.100.164 (talk) 11:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]