Talk:Conservation area

New Page for Ontario Conservation areas?

This page was initially focussed on the UK and probably should remain UK-focussed. Obviously, there are differences between a UK Conservation Area and an Ontario, Canada Conservation Area and so I am suggesting a separate page for each. Perhaps the title of this page should be changed to "Conservation area (United Kingdom)", and the other page could be "Conservation area (Ontario, Canada)". Another approach could be to maintain this page and its title and separate the article into two sections, one for the UK, and the other for Ontario, Canada. There may be other conservation areas in the world that I am not aware of and they could simply be added as different sections as the page evolves. Thoughts? BrianC 17:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of UK Conservation Areas?

Is there value in creating a list of UK Conservation Areas? Perhaps initially on this site, and then if the list grows too long as a free standing list. If there is already such a list then a link needs to be added. DonBarton 13:49, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don, I couldn't find a list of UK cons. areas that already exists and so I would think that a list of UK cons areas would be okay here as long as it's organized. Looks like a list of Ont. Canada conservation areas has already been started on this page, which I think is a good idea, so a UK list should not be precluded. I can see a problem down the road though, because there are very many Canadian conservation areas and I am sure, quite a few UK ones and the page will become very confusing; hence my suggestions of splitting the pages now. BrianC 16:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brian, I think you and I are probably in agreement on this. I will start by gathering some material together on a couple that I already know about but are hardly written about on Wikipedia. It may take me a little while but once I start I expect others will quickly contribute. DonBarton 18:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst I don't ne:cessarily disagree, rather than a list, I suspect a category would be more appropriate - there are more than 8000 conservation areas in the UK ([1]), and so any list would be extremely long and very time-consuming to compile. I expect a complete list could be obtained from the ODPM (or whatever it's called now...) if someone requested it. There's bound to be a hefty charge though, and the contents would be under copyright. DWaterson 20:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Artcle Four

In the UK now there are so-called Article Four Conservation Areas for which the restrictions are even more stringent. Usually councils treat buildings within them as having the equivalent of grade two listing. Would anyone like to research this and add it. Chevin 16:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship of this article to historic districts/national heritage areas (US)

The overall concept in the protection of heritage by creating geographically-bounded areas is identical regardless of particular countries. If this concept is a given, would it be best to combine UK/European methods with U.S. methods in the protection of heritage or do they really need separate pages (with the likely duplication of information)? Tous ensemble 17:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to think that conservation areas in the UK are both notable enough and broad enough in scope to warrant their own Wikipedia article. Perhaps an overarching article about methods of protection of the heritage built environment, with links to individual pages on implementations in different countries? Otherwise such an article could become very lengthy and unwieldy if it attempted to deal with built heritage protection across the entire world in one article. DWaterson 19:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While dealing with Conservation areas in terms of heritage, we need to compare and contrast them with World Heritage Areas which are set up and administered differently, but have similar restrictions placed on the inhabitants. e.g: Derwent Valley Mills World Heritage Area Chevin 10:33, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, World Heritage Sites are a UNESCO creation and have no statutory protection as such in the UK. However, many of them are also designated as conservation areas, Scheduled Ancient Monuments, etc. DWaterson 14:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]