Talk:Congenital hypothyroidism
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better ref format method
[edit]Thanks for adding the pmid ref. Here is an even better method that is almost as simple:
- Find the PMID
- Open a second browser window and go to [1] (You can even bookmark this in your Favorites for speedy access)
- In the dberri template options, check the "add ref tag" box.
- Paste your pmid and click submit. This will produce a formatted journal citation surrounded by the wiki ref tags.
- Copy and paste this into the article you were editing.
- Make sure there is a Reference section at the bottom of the article and that it has a single references/ tag in it like I added to this article.
Notice this produces a numbered reference in the text, and the corresponding citation will appear at the bottom. When new cites are added the numbers are automatically shifted appropriately. alteripse 12:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Suggest merging "cretinism" into this article
[edit]I've just read the cretinism article, and it seems to me that it's talking about this same condition. I would like to merge it into this article. Klortho (talk) 16:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- The cretinism article starts "Cretinism is ... due to untreated congenital deficiency". But it later says "Cretinism arises from a diet deficient in iodine". Unless you accept the first definition, merging them would be a mistake. Maproom (talk) 08:33, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- The congenital deficiency can be due to a diet deficient in iodine (and/or genetic factors etc). A merge looks sensible to me. 86.161.251.139 (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- So if your mother has a healthy diet until you are born, and then you move to an Alpine valley with no iodine, will you develop severe thyroid deficiency? and will its results be called cretinism? Maproom (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- See [2]. (In Alpine valleys, iodised salt is a dietary norm.) 86.161.251.139 (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- The congenital deficiency can be due to a diet deficient in iodine (and/or genetic factors etc). A merge looks sensible to me. 86.161.251.139 (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- I think I'll withdraw the suggestion to merge these two. Although there is a lot of overlap, it seems to me, that cretinism can be caused by things other than congenital hypothyroidism. Klortho (talk) 01:17, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Kudos to Maproom then. 86.161.251.139 (talk) 19:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]doi:10.4274/jcrpe.849 is quite comprehensive with regards to listing causes and assessment. It can be used to replace some primary sources in this article. JFW | T@lk 13:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Merge 2
[edit]Cretinism is caused by untreated Congenital hypothyroidism. All the "Classification and external resources" in the respective infoboxes are identical* and the relevant links have " Congenital hypothyroidism" as the title and mention "cretinism". (*The MeSH links differ [3] and [4] but are crosslinked views of the same data). Although @Klortho:'s previous merger proposal was withdrawn because "cretinism can be caused by things other than congenital hypothyroidism" none of the sources and neither article says that. @Maproom: was worried that 'The cretinism article ... says "Cretinism arises from a diet deficient in iodine"'. What it now says is "the most common cause of congenital hypothyroidism is iodine deficiency. Cretinism is therefore most probably due to a diet deficient in iodine". The two articles should be merged, with information from the cretinism article put into the signs and symptoms section and/or the prognosis section, and the name "cretinism" (and its deprecation) mentioned in the lede. jnestorius(talk) 22:47, 11 March 2016 (UTC). According to ICE 10, both are under different codes: http://icdcode.info/icd-10/code-e00.0.html. http://icdcode.info/icd-10/code-e03.html. So merging would be unappropriate, though depending on the language you are reading Wikipedia, exist confusion between both terms. Someone with acces to a reference manual as "Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric, 2-Volume Set, 7e 7th Edition by J. Larry Jameson MD PhD" should put light on this.(talk) 22:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- Cretinism is caused by untreated CH but is not CH. Cretinism is of significant historical importance.
- Undecided at this point. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:51, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Pending edits
[edit]I plan a few edits of this article, and welcome those editors who have come before me, such as User:Ozzie10aaaa and User:Doc James, to scrutinize my changes. Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 18:28, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
"Cretinism " listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Cretinism and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 27#Cretinism until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Jay (talk) 06:58, 3 February 2022 (UTC)