Talk:Concert 10

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Here is one reference to the concert:

http://musicrocker.com/2005/04/18/edgar-winter-is-coming-to-the-brentwood-corn-festival/

Here is another one:

http://forum.lostpedia.com/archive/index.php/t-1272.html

I just ordered a copy of The Americana Annual, 1973: An Encyclopedia of the Events of 1972 from Amazon for 28 cents and 3.99 shipping. It will be here in a few days. Under no circumstances is Viriditas allowed to continue railroading this topic until I have a chance to view this source.Morgan Wright (talk) 23:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you aware that I did not add that source to the article? It was added by another editor. As for the count, there are two RS on the deletion discussion page that quote 200K. A third source quotes 250, but it is an advertisement for a rock band, and does not meet RS guidelines. Once again, I will ask you, please stop making accusations and personal attacks. —Viriditas | Talk 23:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I attended this concert and I heard "Grand Funk" (Jean-Jacques) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB10:85F8:B000:3FB3:8DA1:FDDF:CB3B (talk) 05:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Further reading: hyzercreek.com

This appears to be a website run or maintained by User:Morgan Wright, who has now added the blog reference to the external link in order to get around the sourcing guideline. —Viriditas | Talk 01:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Correct erroneous sentence in Wikipedia article titled, "Concert 10"

Greetings, I recently discovered incorrect information in a Wikipedia article titled, “Concert 10” about the July, 1972 music festival named Concert 10 held at Pocono International Raceway in Pennsylvania. In the History section, here is the erroneous sentence: “66 people were hired from Bill Graham's road crew in Dallas to maintain the sound reinforcement system.”

The above erroneous sentence should be replaced by this correct sentence: “The festival-scale sound and lighting systems, the vast double stage and the associated specialized crews were provided by Showco, an international touring concert production company based in Dallas, TX.” Please add this link to the corrected sentence: Showco

I know this because I was employed by Showco from 1971 through 2000, and I was one of the Showco sound crew that worked the 1972 Concert 10 Pocono Festival. Incidentally, Showco's entire crew for the festival sound, lighting and stage was composed of approximately 20 people from Dallas, not 66. As with many festivals and concerts, our crew was augmented by local stagehands.

Showco was one of the largest and best known touring sound, lighting, staging, set, design, special effects, manufacturing and production management companies in the world - from 1970 to 2000. Please see the related Wikipedia articles, Showco and Vari-Lite.

It appears the erroneous Wikipedia sentence ​might have been transcribed - incorrectly - from this July 9, 1972 New York Times article about the Concert 10 Pocono Festival: https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:8ff2eeca-45b0-3604-a91b-f6716d9929e0 Please see the first highlighted sentence in the NYT article, 2nd page of the 2 linked pages. In the Wikipedia sentence, the commas from the corresponding NYT sentence are missing and the wording is slightly changed, altering the meaning. And the NYT sentence referred to the Dallas "sound crew's" (i.e., Showco's) work for Billy Graham, the legendary evangelist - not the legendary rock promoter, Bill Graham, as the name is spelled in the Wikipedia sentence. In 1972 Bill Graham was based in San Francisco, had no 66 person road crew in Dallas and had nothing to do with Showco's involvement in the Pocono Festival.Giddyup409 (talk) 17:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

PLEASE NOTE: At Showco, we referred to the Concert 10 Festival simply as the Pocono Festival, or just Pocono.

Also, please see the following link with highlighted references to Showco's work for the Pocono Festival from the August 19, 1972 issue of Billboard Magazine (1st page). https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:9f7b9995-39f8-33bf-8fc8-e0928fe16bb1 Also please note the reference to Showco's work for Billy Graham's Explo 72 at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas (June of 1972). The aerial photo at the bottom of the 2nd page shows Showco's sound and lighting equipment on the huge (by 1972 standards) Pocono double stage, which was also provided and built by Showco. FYI - Billboard is one of the longest-standing, most widely recognized and respected authorities on the music industry. Here is a link to the complete August 19, 1972 Billboard issue: https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/70s/1972/BB-1972-08-19.pdf In support of the above-linked 2 pages, in this linked Billboard issue please see page 47/T-17, the 6th paragraph from the top and and the 4th paragraph from the bottom, and the Pocono Festival aerial photo on page 51. Some of the other photos of Showco equipment and crew in that Billboard article were also taken at the Pocono Festival (page 54). Here are 2 photos showing Showco staff onstage and the audience/racetrack during the festival; note the Bull Angus guitar case as they were playing onstage (Photos by Showco engineer, Jim Bornhorst): https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:1d43e3f7-8fd3-3a1a-bc5b-ea0d19886c1a https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:c579d5f8-809a-3a3c-a943-50417ce03129

Giddyup409 (talk) 20:13, 3 April 2023 (UTC) Giddyup409 (talk) 01:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)Giddyup409 (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your time and consideration. Giddyup409 (talk) 19:22, 15 March 2023 (UTC)216.215.100.1 (talk) 19:42, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Additional source link to "Correct erroneous sentence in Wikipedia article titled, "Concert 10""

Here is a link to the New York Times article about the Concert 10 festival that I mentioned above - from the NYT archives.

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1972/07/09/91335213.html?pageNumber=36 Giddyup409 (talk) 01:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Performers

Some individuals claim Jefferson Airplane played Pocono ahead of Humble Pie. See comments at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaw--HWHecg (I hope someone can find a more reliable source).

Regarding sound systems, JA often lugged their own (e.g. to Golden Gate Park in SF). But probably not all the way to Pennsylvania. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.65.77.184 (talk) 19:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)