Talk:Communal violence/Archive 1

Archive 1

Proposed merge with Communalism (South Asia) (2018 debate)

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Very simillar topic. Septrillion (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - Doesn't make any sense. Communalism is not violence. It is the attitude, philosophy or ideology based on communal differences. I agree that the article on Communalism (South Asia) is pitifully content-free, but let us hope that it will improve in future. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:26, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

• Violence. Attempts to stimulate violence. Same topic. Septrillion (talk) 19:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
• @Kautilya3: Can you explain further? Septrillion (talk) 00:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

There is nothing to explain. My statement above was clear enough. The idea that "communalism" means communal violence seems to be your misunderstanding. But, whatever it is, the WP:BURDEN is on you to make a case for why the articles should be merged. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Some text has been copied nearly verbatim from the other article.

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Communalism is not unique to South Asia. It is found in Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe and Australia.

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Communal violence is found in Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe and Australia.

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The term communalism was constructed by the British colonial authorities as it wrestled to manage violence between religious, ethnic and disparate groups in its colonies, particularly Africa and South Asia, in early 20th century.

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The term was constructed by the British colonial authorities as it wrestled to manage violence between religious, ethnic and disparate groups in its colonies, particularly Africa and South Asia, in early 20th century.

Additionally Communalism (South Asia) contains a section called § Incidents of communal violence which talks about communal violence. How is it not a duplicate? Septrillion (talk) 17:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

There is no prohibition against different articles sharing content. Such sharing never proves that they are the same topic. So, this is a non-argument. In any case, if you are opposed to Communalism (South Asia) existing as a separate article, the right thing to do is to make it a redirect to Sectarianism. The Communal violence article is entirely a different beast. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:58, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Septrillion (talk) 22:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support as proposer. Articles cover the same topic. Septrillion (talk) 00:09, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - "Communalism" in South Asia is wider than just incidents or patterns of community-identity based violence. It could be considered to be a sub-page of Sectarianism, but merging wouldn't be justified - the topic is too wide; e.g. Sectarianism already has a big Lebanon section. There should be appropriate complementarity and cross-linking of content between Communalism (South Asia) and Partition of India - one of the most dramatic, massive events in recent South Asian history relation to communalism. XXIst century South Asian politics+events should be RS-linked into Communalism (South Asia) too. Boud (talk) 11:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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