Talk:Commander-in-Chief, South Atlantic

Orphaned references in Commander-in-Chief, South Atlantic

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Commander-in-Chief, South Atlantic's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "naval-history.net":

• From HMS Veryan Bay (K651): Mason, Geoffrey B. (2005). Gordon Smith (ed.). "HMS Veryan Bay, frigate". naval-history.net. Retrieved 7 January 2011.
• From HMS Burghead Bay: Mason, Geoffrey B. (2005). Gordon Smith (ed.). "HMS Burghead Bay, frigate". naval-history.net. Retrieved 5 October 2010.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:14, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Reverting edits to re-create errors

This article has referencing errors introduced by User:Buckshot06 among these changes. In those edits, a reference named "naval-history.net" was introduced with no usable definition. I replaced these references with {{fact}} tages in the hope they could be remedieid, and to explicitly mark the material as unreferenced.

This edit re-introduced the bad references and the error messages. The reasoning offered was that User:RefBot would come along and fix them (how?). After a week, we see no fix. I can't understand why anyone would re-introduce errors in an article, so I've replaced the maintenance tags. If viable references aren't available, I think we should remove the material previously added. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:42, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Check the three diffs I made more carefully, please, Mike: the empty ref names were replaced with the correct urls, and the data is now there. When I said RefBot, maybe I should have said refbots - it wasn't that one in particular that follows me around inserting the correct references. I added a note on another talk page showing which bot it was - the page at which we had the earlier discussion. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 01:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I've again replaced the {{fact}} tags. Please don't remove them without making a fix.

The problem in the article is caused by the text <ref name="naval-history.net"/>, used twice in the article. Because a reference anchor named "nava-history.net" is not previously defined in the article, the use of these references generates a red error message in the references section: "Cite error: The named reference naval-history.net was invoked but never defined (see the help page)."

These aren't URLs, as they don't contain a scheme. Assuming HTTP, they also don't identify a specific page, just the default page at that site. That page makes no mention of "commander in chief". The material should be properly referenced. -- Mikeblas (talk) 02:01, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

My apologies. While I had carefully inserted the code for both Burghead Bay and the other corvette, I hadn't realised that there was not one ref for Burghead Bay, but three. All the Burghead Bay refs go to the same page. All should be fixed now. One will see at the bottom of http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-15Fr-Bay-VeryanBay.htm that it mentions that Veryan Bay flew the flag of CinC [Commander-in-Chief] South Atlantic, when he was visiting the ship. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 02:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the fix. The article renders without error now. You might also note the comment section above, where AnoimeBOT mentions being unable to resolve the bad reference you had hoped it would fix. -- Mikeblas (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)