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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. WP:ENGVAR advocates using a certain national variety of English when there are "strong national ties to a topic", and that does not seem to be the case here. It also notes that we should tend to "retain the existing variety", which seems at least as applicable. Dekimasu よ! 03:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Columbus Control Center → Columbus Control Centre — WP:ENGVAR. Columbus is European. The UK is part of Europe, the USA is not. Therefore it is of more relevance to the United Kingdom than to the United States, and should use British English. —GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 18:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Leave it alone per its parent, the German Aerospace Center. The British connexion here is really quite tenuous. WP:ENGVAR should not be read to enforce British usage on everything east of the Atlantic, especially on a point on which British usage is not {teste OED) unanimous. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Britain is a member of ESA, the USA is not. What more evidence is needed? --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 07:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. It is a part of the ISS and the common spelling for that should be used. If I recall the press conference a few days ago, ESA is an 8.3% partner. So the US share and influence is larger. Also the guideline is to use the first spelling. 07:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - per the comment below, "center" is how the people there choose to spell the name when they are writing in English. (sdsds - talk) 09:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The term is used here, On Nasa's official website, as Center. The official name trumps concerns over proper English. No objection to the redirect using the term with Centre, as that is indeed a reasonable search term. ZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 14:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Is http://www2.gsoc.dlr.de/columbus/home.htm the Center's website? If it is, I would stick with the American spelling of the word just because the logo and links all use 'Center'. --Chipmunker (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge proposal

User:Save-Me-Oprah has added {{mergefrom}} and {{mergeto}} templates suggesting merging the content of this article into Columbus (ISS module).

Oppose - This Mission Control Center article should be expanded because: (a) it is notable in its own right as the first western-European mission control center for a human spaceflight and (b) because although the control center is notable, it is only tangentially of interest to most readers of the Columbus (ISS module) article. (sdsds - talk) 21:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Because it is the same project, the control center is related enough to a layperson that it should be in the same article as the module. If the section grows too large and becomes too independent, it can be separated later. -kslays (talk) 20:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Well, it is only sort-of the same project. It turns out the Col-CC will also be used to supervise the flights of the Automated Transfer Vehicles. Don't you agree it would be a shame to duplicate the same material about the center in both the Columbus and ATV articles? (sdsds - talk) 21:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It is not strictly true that Col-CC will supervise ATV. Col-CC is reponsible for providing the Ground Segment Connectivity for ATV, as it is for all European manned space activities, but ATV has it's own control centre in Toulouse. - Unionjackgirl (talk) 22:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Concur with first comments on notability and interest - Unionjackgirl (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re-visit of Spelling of Columbus Control Centre/Center

A proposal to return to using the European/British spelling of Centre.

As per ESA's offical Columbus page [1], it is officially known as the Columbus Control Centre, and believe this should be the offical Wiki title.