Talk:Thomas Blood

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Affrontery

Although Charles II was known as the Merrie Monarch, he is unlikely to have released Blood merely as a reward for his affrontery.

What does "affrontery" mean? It's not in Merriam-Webster Online, nor Dictionary.com. Since I suspect it may be either a British word that doesn't exist in American English, I pose the question here. Alternatively, could the author mean "effrontery"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madoka (talk • contribs) 23:20, 9 May 2004

Probably just a spelling error, but "effrontery" isn't really all that apt. I've substituted 'boldness'. Feel free to change it if you think of a better alternative. - Nunh-huh 23:24, 9 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I could claim I used the 17th century spelling :) but it was just a typo. I meant effrontery as in shamlessness or chutzpah. But I've just found another meaning which involves "lack of ability to understand that your behaviour is not acceptable to other people", and by all accounts that is Blood. Concerned only with getting back land given to him by Cromwell or at least its value. I think he was also prepared to abandon his accomplices for his own ends too. garryq 00:54, 10 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Effrontery - "audacious (even arrogant) behavior that you have no right to." Seems suitable enough.

Affronter - "One who affronts, or insults to the face." If there were a word "affrontery", I doubt that was what Blood displayed when he met the king :-)

195.24.29.51 11:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Capture and arrest

I remember reading somewhere he was captured in a pub called "The Crown and Cushion", but here it says he never got out of the tower. Any ideas? EamonnPKeane 21:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to page 45 of 'Cove - Old and New' by Maye Watson and L. F. CALLINGHAM (circa. 1925)^[1] "Col. Thomas Blood, a distant relation of the Castlemaine family, on 9th May, 1671, attempted to steal the Crown and Regalia from the Tower of London, disguised as a clergyman. He lived at Minley Warren and was arrested at the Crown and Cushion Inn." (The Crown and Cushion public house is still in existence on the Minley Road, Minley, Hampshire.) NJGray 20:22, 6th August 2012

References

^ 'Cove - Old and New' by Maye Watson and L. F. CALLINGHAM (circa. 1925)

What happened to Edwards?

The text only says he was stabbed in the stomach.

According to this "Edwards was promised a reward of two hundred pounds but never received it, the unfortunate man died of his wounds shortly after." he died, and Blood & Co thereby committed murder.

195.24.29.51 11:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Consequences of the attempted theft

The article omits to tell us what happened to Blood and co. after they were arrested. --APW 13:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A strange turn of phrase

"succeeded in eventually dying of natural causes." This just seems wierd to me, but I can sort of see what it is trying to say, I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.171.233.138 (talk) 10:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Section on his death

The section is a bit confusing: First it says: "His body was buried in the churchyard of St. Margaret's Church (now Christchurch Gardens) near St. James's Park. It is alleged that Blood's body was exhumed..." and then "Blood's grave is now believed to be located in the graveyard of Saint Andrew's church in Hornchurch."

Huh? If he was buried St. Margaret's churchyard but now he's in St. Andrew's wouldn't he have to have been more than just allegedly exhumed? Or did he get up and walk? Tgpaul58 (talk) 13:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While being slightly facetious doesn't really help you in making the point, I agree the section could be drafted a little better. However the content is still valid: he was "allegedly" exhumed because no-one appears to know for certain. You'll appreciate his burial at St Andrew's comes with the caveat that it is "believed" (presumably in the absence of definitive evidence). He may well still be buried at St Margaret's and never exhumed.Dick G (talk) 09:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colonel?

Was he in fact a Colonel? This article http://www.chilit.org/Published%20Papers/57.%20Puttkammer%20--%20Blood.PDF suggests he was self commissioned - 49.176.36.206 (talk) 14:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Related move

Moved to Talk:Colonel Blood

In ictu oculi (talk) 23:45, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What palace? (under Aftermath, "Irish discontent" section)

Blood refused to answer to anyone but the King and was consequently taken to the palace in chains, where he was questioned by King Charles, Prince Rupert, and others

Is it known on record which palace he was taken to? The King had several royal palaces in the vicinity of London Blood could have been taken to, notably St James', Whitehall, Hampton Court, Richmond and the Tower itself was officially a palace though the royal family had gravitated away from using it.Cloptonson (talk) 17:12, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] 'Cove - Old and New' by Maye Watson and L. F. CALLINGHAM (circa. 1925)

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