Talk:Colm O'Gorman

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"He is Gay"

I'm utterly new to editing wikipedia so apologies if I do this wrong as I don't know what to do with the references. Anyway introduction has squashed on the end 'he is gay' with two references. This seems utterly out of place; would one ever right at the end of a heterosexuals introduction "he is straight"? Going to remove it, but I don't know how to correct the two references which will be orphaned. BeardedChimp (talk) 10:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've done that right, I deleted the two references that followed the text, I hope that was the best way to do it. BeardedChimp (talk) 10:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nuncio or Pope?

Did he sue the nuncio, as currently stated, or the Pope himself? Here it says it was the Pope :/ Malick78 (talk) 22:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"Views and controversies" section and other edits

Aerchasúr, I am reverting your recent addition. Per WP:BRD, do not reinsert without getting consensus. Why am I reverting? 1) The SIPO/donation source does not mention the word "illegal" at all. It is therefore your unreferenced opinion. 2) The sentence on TERFs is sourced to gript, which, per our reliable sources noticeboard is not a reliable source and can't be used on WP. 3) You inserted a category for something that is not mentioned whatsoever in the body of the article. I am going to request that you read WP:NPOV, and you definitely need to read WP:BLP. I will include a sentence on his views on hate speech, though really, it's a bit of a WP:MANDY position for the director of Amnesty International, one would think. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 21:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't my opinion. It was reported as a illegal in the Irish Times. My bad on using in correct citation https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/amnesty-international-ordered-t:o-return-donation-from-billionaire-george-soros-1.3320638. Gript meets standard journalistic standardsAerchasúr (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is your opinion. The word "illegal" is not used in either the Indo article you previously cited in the article, or in the Irish Times article you now claim says it was illegal. There was a legal dispute, which is a different thing. This was heard in the High Court in 2018, and involved Amnesty International and SIPO, not O'Gorman directly, who was only involved in his Amnesty role. Why would we include this in his BLP? I mean, I suppose we could include it, if it was neutrally worded, and we mention that Amnesty won the case? Once again, it has already been discussed, but gript is not regarded as a reliable source on Wikipedia. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 22:33, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gript meets all WP policy such as WP:BLP. Aerchasúr (talk) 01:27, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that Gript does not meet WP:RS. Checking outbound links shows one usage only, and that's on a talk page. Gript has its own well-known POV - they announce it themselves in their "About" page, so it's not going to meet WP:RS - Alison ^❤ 02:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, Alison - question asked and answered here. Aerchasúr is aware of this now, so hopefully will stop adding it to articles. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That isnt correct. It meets WP:RS. A point of view does not exclude a source being used as long as it is apparent and not deceptive. Wikipedia is supposed to have a neutral point of view, but its sources are not required to be neutral, in fact it is a prerequisite that its sources are not neutral for wiki to cover issues from both sides. The Irish Times has its own point of view as do most media outlets bar legally neutral outlets like the RTE and BBC etc. A citation of a source is not an endorsement of a resource being true. Hence rources as evil as mein kampf and the communist manifesto are cited on Wiki. You can not use the a rarity of a publication being cited as evidence that it is a bad citation. It doesn't have many citations on wiki as its a new resource and because people keep removing citations. Given that Bastun allows the sources which have no authors and no publishers and are simply anonymous websites it is extremely hard to take Bastun serious on WP:RS. This deleted ion is a clear case of WP:IDONTLIKETHAT The notice board discussion of Gript isn't credible. It lists bogus objections to its reliability such as that it is anti abortion. Aerchasúr (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to make the above arguments at the Reliable Souces Noticeboard as you seek to have it close down, so. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:28, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]