Talk:Coffee Joulies

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I think this page has been edited by someone with vested interests.

I remember reading this page a while ago and it seemed to strongly suggest Joulies did not work. However now that I return to the page it seems far more like an advert and downplays all the evidence suggesting that they do not work. I remember at least 1 blog posts that measured the temprature and showed the Joulies were no more effective than rocks. One quote that struck a cord with me was: "Many reviews show Joulies work just as advertised[one valid reference] while some bloggers have expressed doubts over the product's effectiveness.[5 references basically saying that they do not work]." Note how "many" is stated although only one reference is given and they are called "reviews" whereas the tests showing Joulies to be ineffective were reffered to as simply "bloggers", "doubting" the effectiveness.

What do we do in a situation such as this? I feel we need more than just the "contains instructions, advice, or how-to content. The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to train" opening tag. I will try to rewrite some of this page in time but I'm not very good a this and am new to wikipedia. Thank you. 80.7.27.189 (talk) 02:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote it when Joulies launched, they were one of the early "big" kickstarter projects. I don't have a vested interest- feel free to look at my profile page to check. I don't remember writing the "many" word, but I'm sure you can fix up the wording. Keep in mind "blog posts" aren't reliable sources, and your edit to add "..if at all" is a bit of a POV word in the other direction. tedder (talk) 03:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When you created it the article was quite different. There was then an advertisement placed in Elance, which resulted in a number of changes, most of which have since been removed. I don't find the current version to be particularly problematic, but there may be some leftovers from the paid/COI editing. - Bilby (talk) 04:18, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

I am copying userpage text here that I previously proposed as summary text for this article. This has some repetition with the current article but might be of interest for other users to review for text and reference formatting, as I am deleting the userpage. If there are any questions about the article please feel free to ask. Frieda Beamy (talk) 19:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee Joulies are bean-shaped steel shells, containing a nontoxic phase change gel, that cool scalding coffee to an optimal drinkable temperature and keep it warm longer.^[1]^[2] They were invented by Pennington, New Jersey, mechanical engineers Dave Petrillo and David Jackson (a Stanford graduate).^[1]^[3] Via the Kickstarter fundraising website, the creators obtained over $300,000 in preorders. Several national and international companies have offered to buy the Coffee Joulies organization.^[4]

^ ^a ^b Wortham, Jenna (20 Apr 2011). "A Web Edge for Makers of Real Stuff". The New York Times. p. B1. Retrieved 4 May 2012.
^ Murray, Michael (12 Apr 2011). "Magic Coffee Beans Save you From Scalding Coffee". ABC News. Retrieved 4 May 2012.
^ Gulezian, Lisa Amin (1 Apr 2011). "Two entrepreneurs find cool idea for hot coffee". ABC News. Retrieved 4 May 2012.
^ Baber, Cassaundra (30 May 2011). "Coffee Joulies' young inventors bring new life to Sherrill plant". Utica Observer-Dispatch. Retrieved 4 May 2012. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

Actually on second thought I should probably not delete the userpage as that would be more transparent. Frieda Beamy (talk) 19:48, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I also received the following usertalk (next section): Frieda Beamy (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DAB link

Hi. Just letting you know, you've linked to Phase change, which is a disambiguation page. It looks like you meant to link to phase transition. CarrieVS (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[newyorktimes1-1] Wortham, Jenna (20 Apr 2011). "A Web Edge for Makers of Real Stuff". The New York Times. p. B1. Retrieved 4 May 2012.

[2] Murray, Michael (12 Apr 2011). "Magic Coffee Beans Save you From Scalding Coffee". ABC News. Retrieved 4 May 2012.

[3] Gulezian, Lisa Amin (1 Apr 2011). "Two entrepreneurs find cool idea for hot coffee". ABC News. Retrieved 4 May 2012.

[4] Baber, Cassaundra (30 May 2011). "Coffee Joulies' young inventors bring new life to Sherrill plant". Utica Observer-Dispatch. Retrieved 4 May 2012. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

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