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The red cockade on the cocked hat or on the shakoo was the Spanish badge before and after the time of the Napoleonic Wars. The Spanish Order of Carlos III's band was like the Argentinian flag. Any relationship? 1) In argentina the red cockade was mostly use during civil war to identify the members of the Federal Party. It was ordered by the Buenos Aires gobernor, Juan Manuel de Rosas. Was a sign that the federalism was the ideology tha belong to human nature, as the blood. Those events were a long time afther the napoleonic war (1830-1851 aprox) The first use, wich is refered in the article, were as a decorative purpose (1811 aprox)and only by a few who participate in the defence of Buenos Aires (1807). It was not part of any uniform.

2) Yes in part, because it was a bobornic colour, use to made clothes in the viceroyalty at that time. During the british invasion (1806, 1807)the civilians formed strong militias and army units. Most of the manpower were members of the criollos society. As an imporvise simbol -easy to find in any house- to identify them between each other -to avoid friend fire- they use ribons done with those colours. British units use predominant simbols with red, then the contrast was easy between ones and other uniforms. Afther the british invasions, the most important militia unit were the "Regimiento de Patricios", which become regular force and stronger than the spaniard units. The light blue and white became a simbol of that force. During the May Revolution not only the militia were using those ribons, but also the people around the Cabildo, wich showed to the spaniard viceroy, and his army, that they were not abble to hold the civilian autority. Thats how they were replaced by the "Primera Junta" the first national government in Argentina -1810- Those colours were used to design the flag and the coat of arms background. The first historical use of the light blue and white band as a simbol in a coat of arm could be find in the Catholical Church. From there is were Carlos III took the combination that became part of the borbonic simbols. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.183.79.251 (talk) 17:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]