Talk:Coachella, California

Please translate into Spanish

Because the large influx of Hispanics into the Eastern Coachella Valley, it's surprising nobody wrote a Spanish translation of Indio and Coachella. The wikipedia staff should consider the bilingual nature of these cities, and rewrite the articles on Indio and Coachella in Spanish. It's written in German (Deutsch) and French (Francais) since tourists from Europe, Canada and Australia (obviously in English) come down to the Palm Springs-Indio area. The Indio area has a history of other ethnicities formed a sizable segment of the populace: Armenians, Filipinos, Japanese, Russians, Syrians and Western Europeans. La Quinta is home to a large Italian community, the Jewish religion has six synagogues in Palm Desert, the tolerance of the gay/lesbian lifestyle has placed an anchor tied to Palm Springs, and over 50,000 Canadian "snowbirds" flock to the Indio area every winter. But the majority of inhabitants are Spanish-speakers, although bilingual and I wondered anyone in Latin America would love to read about the Indio and Palm Springs area. Uno articulo en Espanol por favor y mucho gracias. + 207.200.116.138 02:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me, I'm from Coachella and call myself latino. It's unnecessary to translate the article into Spanish. Most Latinos here in Coachella speak and read enough English to get by. The May 1st immigrant walkout protests in Coachella, right in the time the city council declared Coachella a "sanctuary city" for illegal immigrants, turned my town inside out. Whenever I bring the subject to friends from Palm Desert and Palm Springs, they ask me is it in Mexico? I tried not to get angry about it, but I brush it off and wondered in my head: who heard of Coachella anyway? I just say "oh no, keep driving east of Indio and you're there". I heard Coachella is "little Mexicali", "little Sonora" or "little Sinaloa", because lots of immigrants arrived from those states in the Mexico west coast in one town. Hard workers from villages come together and stick around to find jobs. I like that work ethic and positive attitude. But I don't want Coachella viewed an "all Mexican" town. - ernesto 207.200.116.74 08:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

This is ernesto. If you unable to put facts on Coachella (some are negative even you try to be honest on what happens here) can't you keep your sources other than put citation needed? I read Talk:Indio, California to defend your edits, but questioned the authenticity of sources by an anon IP. Don't make yourself a hypocrite, go back and verify them. I believe you hold a grudge or POV on Hispanics. If you live in Indio, you may move out to be with your own kind. You need to take civic pride on your town. Every community in America is made by immigration. but you state NPOV on how Latinos had lived and developed southern California. Don't keep doing this no more, cause it's not funny or has encyclopedia value (teen pregnancy, crime ratios, or local poverty) if you never show me links or sources. I'm gonna redo the coachella and "East valley" articles to have less POV or carefuly validate the truth or facts of Coachella. I dont think you ever go to Coachella. If you want to be observant on what goes on, your edits will tell differently. - ernesto 207.200.116.74 03:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I've corrected my spelling and caps to began sentences. I admit my mistakes. The origins of Coachella's situation is many residents are lower-middle class not poor enough and certainly not rich. 15 years ago, Coachella suffered from low attention and a city government unable to do good business. Shopowners left the city for elsewhere. The southern Pacific rail station closed in 1990 devastated local business, six big-name retail or grocery stores closed like Target, Sears and Penneys, and older homeowners sold their homes when values crashed in the early 1990s. It was a time Cal. has stifled in a bad economy. I remember an Indio City councilman gave his take on the Desert Sun a few years ago on half the residents don't have a college diploma. Besides Indio and Coachella are comfortable places for Hispanics. An area of choice where members of an ethnic group move in where others of their group already live. Mexican immigrants choose to live in less expensive homes, the further from a main city, the cheaper. we're 20-30 miles from Palm Springs. BTW that city isn't all glitz or glamour, Cat. City and Des. Hot Spgs. are worse off. - ernesto

I apologize, but the entries are describing the struggles of good people in Coachella. Not everyone in the city is poor or Latino, nor are in gangs or dropped out of school. I've heard of the International University of San Diego had a new campus in Coachella, a small higher learning facility and the College of the Desert East Valley campus in Thermal. The city has two new shopping centers, right by two petroleum plants that employed hundreds of locals. And the new home tracts east of Coachella on the Indian reservation indicates prosperity arrived for members of the Cabazon/29 Palms bands of Mission Indians (I believe they are Cahuillas, but heard of Apaches from Arizona historically settled in Coachella). As I said, I don't mean to offend you, Ernesto. Half the people don't have a college diploma you said? Hhmm, I'm surprised Indio and Coachella aren't a magnet for young college kids whom find Palm Springs a popular hangout (spring break is dead after mayor Sonny Bono drove them away). With a large number of young adults (and the high number of single mothers included), I don't see why not many bars/ clubs and motels set up in Coachella, note the two thriving casinos. Indio city ordinances banned dance clubs or establishments, but one can set up one on Indian land. Coachella has two annual rock music festivals, but they are held in Indio, then every concert attendee would know it by name. +Mike D 26 08:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No pages on Cabazon/29 palms/Augustine indians?

Sounds like a good idea for me to develop them, because no articles on the Cabazon and Twentynine Palms band of Mission Indians exist. I know these are generally small populated tribal nations, but the two casino establishments made the Indio/Coachella area a must-go for "high rollers" or casino patrons. Coachella has the Augustine Band of Cahuilla Indians, the smallest tribal group in the US, has six members made up of the family of Mary Ann Parker, tribal chief and owner of Augustine Casino. Adopted by an African-American family, Parker has later discovered her heritage after her biological parents and brother's deaths. She made national and world news headlines, like Time Magazine's 2003 front cover story on Indian Gambling in America, and the impact of Native American sovereignity able to allow Parker to run a casino. She approved a hotel-resort project with a 18-hole golf course on a square mile patch of land, the former Augustine Indian reservation, has risen away from extinction. I can make a page on the "family" of Mary Ann Parker, legally the Augustine tribe, with the right stuff. + Mike D 26 09:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

new sports team coming up?

According to the Minor League Football Association article, a new semi-pro football team is coming to Coachella in 2007, the "Thermal Truckers" may play there. I can't find any proof of this, it lacks the sources and criteria. Please don't spread rumors on Wikipedia, but I understand the MLFA has interest in more teams for California. I can't think of a place for a football franchise in Coachella or anywhere, but to call it the Thermal Truckers is unusual, because Thermal is right by Coachella and don't really have a stadium, but a small recreation park. + 207.200.116.74 05:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

major edit

Hi, I just did a major edit of this article; it was unbelievably poorly written. Most of my edits were just for grammar and word choice, but I did delete a couple of sentences which I felt were too controversial and POV. In addition, I removed the following, which was embedded in an HTML comment. I didn't write it, but it belongs here, not in the main article.

I really hope coachella is aware of what the anons wrote in the article. please be careful and don't try to judge the town as it is. It needs to note more white middle-aged professionals purchase new homes which cost less in coachella and indio to the west. The teen pregnancy may appear POV if it has no official stats from the high school or the state dept. of education on the matter of births from teen mothers.

This article is still plagued with problems. 149.8.226.148 21:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

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Pronounciation of Coachella

Is it Coh-chel-a or Coh-ah-chel-a ? -- BetacommandBot 01:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Either or both is accepted. Added to article and referenced. DFS (talk) 04:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

'Either or both is accepted' is just an excuse for someone who doesn't want to do the research. Just because both are accepted doesn't mean both are correct. The correct and official pronunciation is 'ko-ah-CHE-lah', as it's a Spanish name, meaning all vowels are pronounced.108.182.55.127 (talk) 08:01, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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Unsourced material

The following is unsourced information:

• The city erected a local Vietnam Veterans' memorial to represent over 600 men and women from Coachella who served in the Vietnam War.
• The Ernie Ball guitar company, based in San Luis Obispo, California, opened a manufacturing facility in the City of Coachella in 2005.
• One of the few US alternative fuel plants is in Coachella, where cooking oil is recycled and transformed into use for motor vehicle engines.
• A proposed sports facility is in the city, possibly to house a minor league baseball team.
• A contemplated new airport in addition to the Jackie Cochran-Desert Cities Regional Airport in nearby Thermal is in the works.
• On-line Hip Hop radio show Play Back Radio is based out of Coachella, CA.

While this is interesting, we can't use it unless you provide a source. Also, none of this is really trivia, as trivia by its definition is "unimportant information" - it therefore shouldn't be in a trivia section but instead the information should be incorporated into the main article. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 11:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

FBI crime data and ethnic categories

"Coachella received negative local media attention as a city riddled by youth gangs, drug trade activity, massive movement of undocumented immigration and racial separatism. Much of the non-Hispanic population moved away in reaction. However, the 2006 FBI crime statistical release placed Coachella at the lowest crime rates in all of the Coachella Valley and Riverside County."

Please be aware that FBI crime statistics lumps "Hispanic" (a concocted term that is actually meaningless at many levels with "Chicano" and "Latino" also meaningless terms/labels), in the "White" category. Personal experience from decades of living in many areas of California, frequently as an Anglo minority and increasingly as an Anglo-USA citizen minority that, especially for males, great care had to be taken to either avoid or deter criminal assault based upon being an Anglo and/or a USA citizen. Some basic Web research if conducted properly will offer ample proof of what I proclaim though the USA mass media has failed at informing the general public of a reality that led to my eventually fleeing my home state now so often and adequately labeled as Mexifornia. Even though the politically correct crowd bemoans reality when I departed California I believe I re-entered the USA... even though the ongoing invasion of the once-sovereign USA continues with the tsunami of invaders flooding across the USA. Obbop Obbop (talk) 06:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Coachella should be treated with the same amount of respect in comparison like Solvang is known for a high density of Danish people anwyhere in the USA and outside of Denmark, and the black/African-American majority of West Helena, Arkansas for example should be a rather good example of the Black or African-American experience, and not a single "issue" about let's say the private all-Orthodox Jewish community of Kiryas Joel, New York being exclusively an ethno-religious enclave. The mass media needs to stop and not hype, patronize or trivialize Hispanic/Latino groups in the USA like they are "alien" when their lands of origin are within the same landmass of the Americas (esp. Mexico, Cuba and Puerto Rico) are no strangers to Anglo-Americans when in fact they are part of North America. 71.102.21.238 (talk) 08:54, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Apples and pears

Yes, these two statements really belog together! ;-) "The film director Frank Capra is interred in the Coachella Valley Cemetery. The agricultural area surrounding Coachella was where the United Farm Workers union staged strikes and protests, including visits by UFW leader César Chávez." Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 08:58, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Climate

Having traveled on I-10 through San Gorgonio Pass, I have noticed a sharp change of vegetation on opposite sides of the pass even if the pass is hardly noticeable as a change of altitude. On the west side is a typical Mediterranean biome of savanna-like parkland; on the east side is stark desert. Banning gets about 17" of precipitation in a normal year; Coachella gets less than 5" of precipitation in a year.

Coachella is undeniably in a rain shadow. - signed by anon IP

Yes, Coachella and nearby Indio and Thermal (hence the namesake) is under a rain shadow, which makes the area drier, hotter and experience less rainfall. These places are among the hottest in North and South America (the Western Hemisphere), but not as hot as Death Valley, which also has a below-sea-level valley floor like Indio-Coachella all the way to Calexico-Mexicali in the Imperial valley. Adinneli (talk) 14:17, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Population

Coachella has a fluctuating population like the rest of the Coachella Valley. In April, about 40,000 residents, but can be as high as 50,000 in Jan (about 10,000 snowbirds or seasonal residents from the Northwest, North and East US) and just 30,000 in July, increasing to 10,000 in harvest season around April by migrant farm workers from Mexico. 67.49.89.214 (talk) 21:15, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Coachella (festival)#Requested move 12 February 2024

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