Talk:Clubs (suit)

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Question : In the example card layout of the playing cards with clubs the small clubs symbol in the top left corner on every card is upside down. Is this deliberate, an error or ambiguous ? 145.53.251.165 15:27, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That would be my mistake in making them, which, coincidentally, was just recently pointed out to me. Cburnett 03:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

War or Agriculture?

This article contradicts itself in the meaning of the suit. It states in the intro that it stands for war, but later down it says that Spades is representative of the military class and Clubs is representative of agriculture. To be honest, I think the former makes more sense, with Spades representing agriculture instead.nf utvol (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting from an About.com article on the subject: "In French decks, the suits represent the four classes: Spades represent nobility, hearts stand for the clergy, diamonds represent merchants, and clubs are peasants." This seems to make considerably more sense to me than even the military / agriculture version. Would a games historian like to comment on this? Dcook32p (talk) 11:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how valid these supposed representations are bearing in mind that French suits were a simplification of German suits in order to facilitate mass manufacture. So Diamonds were Bells, Spades were Leaves, Clubs were Acorns, and Hearts were retained as Hearts. Such 'meanings' are not mentioned in Parlett's history of card games which includes a detailed section on suits.Bermicourt (talk) 19:15, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Polish name

In Polish language clubs are called "trefl" (transcription from French - as every suit in Polish deck). The name "żołądź" is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.6.167.146 (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]